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Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:23 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:13 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:50 am
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 8:37 am
In your hypothetical, were they also responsible for wrecking the economy and destroying the country by leaving the border wide open? Cuz that depletes my goodwill significantly.
The border isn't wide open and our country isn't being destroyed. So dramatic. MAGA brainworms have rotted your ability to think clearly.
Only tangentially related, I think one of the many (and linked) reasons Harris/Walz is having so much success is that Joe’s pitch was one-note: forecasting the
actual darkness of a second, unchecked Trump term.
That pitch wasn’t wrong.
But it turns out that you can’t effectively counter the (manufactured) darkness that Trump voters have been deceived into believing exists, with only your own claims of the actual darkness to come.
Harris/Walz can offer those, while also offering light and hope - and a call to action to
seek those things, to work
toward those things, as opposed to merely opposing darkness and resignation.
"light" and "hope" and "joy". YIPEEE!
All that and $2.25 gets me a ride on a bus - and another Trump Presidency?
Excuse me while I vomit.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:27 pm
by Sparko
But Gutter as a cynic is not maybe our best objective source, eh?
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:28 pm
by Overlander
“potential false flag event ”
This is what should scare everyone about the upcoming election.
The far right is, right now, making plans for the inevitable Trump defeat. Write it down.
There is a weird vibe in places like rural Oregon…the Idaho panhandle, western Montana.
This is going to be bad.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:31 pm
by jfish26
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:23 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:13 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:50 am
The border isn't wide open and our country isn't being destroyed. So dramatic. MAGA brainworms have rotted your ability to think clearly.
Only tangentially related, I think one of the many (and linked) reasons Harris/Walz is having so much success is that Joe’s pitch was one-note: forecasting the
actual darkness of a second, unchecked Trump term.
That pitch wasn’t wrong.
But it turns out that you can’t effectively counter the (manufactured) darkness that Trump voters have been deceived into believing exists, with only your own claims of the actual darkness to come.
Harris/Walz can offer those, while also offering light and hope - and a call to action to
seek those things, to work
toward those things, as opposed to merely opposing darkness and resignation.
"light" and "hope" and "joy". YIPEEE!
All that and $2.25 gets me a ride on a bus - and another Trump Presidency?
Excuse me while I vomit.
You’ll have to walk me through this one.
I posted to note that the Biden campaign - which meaningfully trailed the Trump campaign in the good polls - was one-note.
Harris’ campaign, which is not one-note, is surging ahead of Trump.
Doesn’t that mean that a more diverse message is…
reducing the likelihood of a second Trump presidency?
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:36 pm
by KUTradition
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:28 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:10 pm
Sparko wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:55 am
What did we do to deserve endless Psych posts? Jeebus.
he see’s what’s coming
notice, he didn’t crawl from beneath his rock after the rnc, but rather mid-night 2 of the DNC
I do see what's coming: election interference, a second plandemic, and a potential false flag event to cover for the voter fraud. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
the irony of a “psychologist” buying in to so many conspiracy theories?
it’s no wonder you’re struggling so much personally
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:39 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Sparko wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:27 pm
But Gutter as a cynic is not maybe our best objective source, eh?
Of course I'm not the best objective source. Well, actually, maybe I'm better than many/most on here - being that I am privy to some things others are not?
I'm choosing to be pessimistic because I know this election is a toss up - and I find fault in those who think this election is in the bag for Kamala - and are thus doing nothing (or little) to continue to help her, the Dems, and our country.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:43 pm
by jfish26
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:39 pm
Sparko wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:27 pm
But Gutter as a cynic is not maybe our best objective source, eh?
Of course I'm not the best objective source. Well, actually, maybe I'm better than many/most on here - being that I am privy to some things others are not?
I'm choosing to be pessimistic because I know this election is a toss up - and I find fault in those who think this election is in the bag for Kamala - and are thus doing nothing (or little) to continue to help her, the Dems, and our country.
I don’t think there are many people doing that, at all.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:50 pm
by JKLivin
KUTradition wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:36 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:28 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:10 pm
he see’s what’s coming
notice, he didn’t crawl from beneath his rock after the rnc, but rather mid-night 2 of the DNC
I do see what's coming: election interference, a second plandemic, and a potential false flag event to cover for the voter fraud. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
the irony of a “psychologist” buying in to so many conspiracy theories?
it’s no wonder you’re struggling so much personally
We shall see. I’d be happy to be wrong.
I’m not struggling personally at all. I’m probably one of the happiest people you’ll ever meet. I have to work more than I’d like in order to get ahead, and I’m worried about the direction my country is moving, but I have a beautiful wife and kids who love me, and I get to do things I enjoy for a living. Life is pretty good.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:51 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:31 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:23 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:13 am
Only tangentially related, I think one of the many (and linked) reasons Harris/Walz is having so much success is that Joe’s pitch was one-note: forecasting the
actual darkness of a second, unchecked Trump term.
That pitch wasn’t wrong.
But it turns out that you can’t effectively counter the (manufactured) darkness that Trump voters have been deceived into believing exists, with only your own claims of the actual darkness to come.
Harris/Walz can offer those, while also offering light and hope - and a call to action to
seek those things, to work
toward those things, as opposed to merely opposing darkness and resignation.
"light" and "hope" and "joy". YIPEEE!
All that and $2.25 gets me a ride on a bus - and another Trump Presidency?
Excuse me while I vomit.
You’ll have to walk me through this one.
I posted to note that the Biden campaign - which meaningfully trailed the Trump campaign in the good polls - was one-note.
Harris’ campaign, which is not one-note, is surging ahead of Trump.
Doesn’t that mean that a more diverse message is…
reducing the likelihood of a second Trump presidency?
Yes, Harris has gotten her bump. Will she sustain it? I hope so but I'm not going to count on it.
I'm all for a more diverse message but when the messages are "light", "hope", and "joy". Those are little more than just tag words - and lacking of substance.
Heck, maybe that's all she needs (is tag words) but I have a strong feeling uncommitted voter Joe Smith in swing state ________________ isn't voting for Kamala Harris because of "JOY".
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:52 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:43 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:39 pm
Sparko wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:27 pm
But Gutter as a cynic is not maybe our best objective source, eh?
Of course I'm not the best objective source. Well, actually, maybe I'm better than many/most on here - being that I am privy to some things others are not?
I'm choosing to be pessimistic because I know this election is a toss up - and I find fault in those who think this election is in the bag for Kamala - and are thus doing nothing (or little) to continue to help her, the Dems, and our country.
I don’t think there are many people doing that, at all.
I hope you're right!
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:07 pm
by jfish26
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:51 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:31 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:23 pm
"light" and "hope" and "joy". YIPEEE!
All that and $2.25 gets me a ride on a bus - and another Trump Presidency?
Excuse me while I vomit.
You’ll have to walk me through this one.
I posted to note that the Biden campaign - which meaningfully trailed the Trump campaign in the good polls - was one-note.
Harris’ campaign, which is not one-note, is surging ahead of Trump.
Doesn’t that mean that a more diverse message is…
reducing the likelihood of a second Trump presidency?
Yes, Harris has gotten her bump. Will she sustain it? I hope so but I'm not going to count on it.
I'm all for a more diverse message but when the messages are "light", "hope", and "joy". Those are little more than just tag words - and lacking of substance.
Heck, maybe that's all she needs (is tag words) but I have a strong feeling uncommitted voter Joe Smith in swing state ________________ isn't voting for Kamala Harris because of "JOY".
Maybe Joe Smith isn’t. But maybe Julie Shaw is. That’s kind of my point - the Harris/Walz campaign just has more to offer than Biden.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:10 pm
by Overlander
KUTradition wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:36 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:28 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:10 pm
he see’s what’s coming
notice, he didn’t crawl from beneath his rock after the rnc, but rather mid-night 2 of the DNC
I do see what's coming: election interference, a second plandemic, and a potential false flag event to cover for the voter fraud. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
the irony of a “psychologist” buying in to so many conspiracy theories?
it’s no wonder you’re struggling so much personally
A psychologist working 4 other jobs is kind of a highlighter.
Of course, we all know it is a bullshit story.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:20 pm
by JKLivin
Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:28 pm
“potential false flag event ”
This is what should scare everyone about the upcoming election.
The far right is, right now, making plans for the inevitable Trump defeat. Write it down.
There is a weird vibe in places like rural Oregon…the Idaho panhandle, western Montana.
This is going to be bad.
It’s also easily - avoided. Don’t. Steal. The. Election.
Even you can comprehend that.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:22 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:07 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:51 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:31 pm
You’ll have to walk me through this one.
I posted to note that the Biden campaign - which meaningfully trailed the Trump campaign in the good polls - was one-note.
Harris’ campaign, which is not one-note, is surging ahead of Trump.
Doesn’t that mean that a more diverse message is…
reducing the likelihood of a second Trump presidency?
Yes, Harris has gotten her bump. Will she sustain it? I hope so but I'm not going to count on it.
I'm all for a more diverse message but when the messages are "light", "hope", and "joy". Those are little more than just tag words - and lacking of substance.
Heck, maybe that's all she needs (is tag words) but I have a strong feeling uncommitted voter Joe Smith in swing state ________________ isn't voting for Kamala Harris because of "JOY".
Maybe Joe Smith isn’t. But maybe Julie Shaw is. That’s kind of my point - the Harris/Walz campaign just has more to offer than Biden.
Biden/Harris and Harris/Walz both have/had Harris.
I'm not disputing that there isn't more that Harris/Walz have to offer than Biden/Harris did (other than she's not 81 years old and is now running for President) but I'm not convinced Joe Smith and Julie Shaw are going to be simply sold on "light", "hope" and "JOY". Hopefully I'm wrong and they see the light and are full of joy in voting for Momala and Timmy.
Frankly, she does nothing more for me today that she did/didn't do for me on July 21st.
What a difference 3 and half years makes - and yet, many of us saw this coming 3 and half years ago.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:31 pm
by Overlander
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:20 pm
Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:28 pm
“potential false flag event ”
This is what should scare everyone about the upcoming election.
The far right is, right now, making plans for the inevitable Trump defeat. Write it down.
There is a weird vibe in places like rural Oregon…the Idaho panhandle, western Montana.
This is going to be bad.
It’s also easily - avoided. Don’t. Steal. The. Election.
Even you can comprehend that.
No one is stealing elections.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:40 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:31 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:20 pm
Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:28 pm
“potential false flag event ”
This is what should scare everyone about the upcoming election.
The far right is, right now, making plans for the inevitable Trump defeat. Write it down.
There is a weird vibe in places like rural Oregon…the Idaho panhandle, western Montana.
This is going to be bad.
It’s also easily - avoided. Don’t. Steal. The. Election.
Even you can comprehend that.
No one is stealing elections.
Hillary begs to differ.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:44 pm
by Overlander
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:40 pm
Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:31 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:20 pm
It’s also easily - avoided. Don’t. Steal. The. Election.
Even you can comprehend that.
No one is stealing elections.
Hillary begs to differ.
2016 wasn’t stolen.
It was, however, influenced.The election results were what they were.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:56 pm
by JKLivin
Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:31 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:20 pm
Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:28 pm
“potential false flag event ”
This is what should scare everyone about the upcoming election.
The far right is, right now, making plans for the inevitable Trump defeat. Write it down.
There is a weird vibe in places like rural Oregon…the Idaho panhandle, western Montana.
This is going to be bad.
It’s also easily - avoided. Don’t. Steal. The. Election.
Even you can comprehend that.
No one is stealing elections.
They did in 2020. They had better not in 2024.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:01 pm
by KUTradition
no, “they” didn’t
so very dumb
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:13 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:44 pm
2016 wasn’t stolen.
It was, however, influenced.The election results were what they were.
Actually, I was referring to this.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaSndBEBeEk
P.S. She's not alone in realizing the part of the "master plan".
https://www.advocate.com/election/rache ... n-election