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Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 4:13 pm
by KUTradition
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 6:59 pm
by Sparko
Wow. Ukraine may have kicked in the door.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 8:01 pm
by Shirley
I hope Harris is more amenable to Zelensky's desire to prosecute the war using US assets more aggressively than Biden has allowed. Make Russia feel it, pay a price. (With all due respect to the average Russian citizen...) Let's teach Putin and his fellow imperialists a lesson, and not only put an end to their invasion of Ukraine, but lesson the likelihood Russia will advance on their former satellites, or anyone else, any time soon. Why stretch this out for more and more years when Ukraine is so eager to make the effort and bring it to an end? What could have a more significant impact on Russian public opinion than losses on the battlefield, and having to defend the motherland?
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 8:28 pm
by KUTradition
if “we” had done so in 2014 “we” likely wouldn't be in this mess
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 8:55 pm
by Sparko
Right you both are
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:19 am
by jfish26
If I understand correctly, Putin must let Ukraine keep the parts of Russia that Ukraine has won, as a condition to peace.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:35 am
by KUTradition
that’s been the working “logic”
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:37 pm
by Shirley
"The ruble is cratering and there are some very prominent Russians who are now speaking out against this war very unusually."
Putin's position is no longer secure, says journalist Diane Francis.
Putin’s warlords and oligarchs threaten coup as Ruble craters | Diane Francis
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:00 pm
by jfish26
Matter of time before Trump
Logan Acts all over this, then.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:47 pm
by Shirley
jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:00 pm
Matter of time before Trump
Logan Acts all over this, then.
It's a Republican tradition for over half a century!
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:58 am
by Shirley
Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ukrainian Intelligence Service has claimed responsibility for the drone attack on the ammunition depot in Ostrogozhsk city in Russia’s Voronezh region on Saturday. The agency confirmed that soldiers of the Main Intelligence Directorate attacked Russian field ammunition depot belonging to the “West” group of the Russian Armed Forces. “More than 5,000 tons of ammunition, including artillery and tank shells, small arms cartridges and surface-to-air missiles were on the territory of the military facility. Detonation continues,” the Main Directorate stated in its official Telegram channel. The explosion occurred in Ostrogozhsk city after the attack. It should be noted that as many as 200 people were evacuated from three nearby villages following the attack...
Ukrainian intelligence destroys Russian depot containing over 5,000 tons of ammunition
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:18 pm
by jfish26
Hey Siri, show me FlightAware for Pyongyang airport.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:23 am
by Shirley
Ukraine launched over 100 drones at Russia, hitting multiple targets in and around Moscow including the Moscow Oil Refinery, Konakovo Thermal Powerplant and Volodarskaya fuel depot
Moscow gets Malleted -- Multiple Oil Facilities and Power Plants Hit by Drones Around the Capital
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:17 pm
by Shirley
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 5:53 pm
by Sparko
Probably time for Russia to go home. They have been spraying thermite w/ the TOS-1 since the beginning
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:47 pm
by Shirley
Putin's full-scale invasion of Ukraine has forced Kyiv to take many risks, including its recent and unexpected cross-border Kursk offensive - the first invasion of Russia since World War 2. Yet despite one month on, Russia has no answer and Ukraine now controls 1500 square km. Lt Gen Ben Hodges, former Commander of US Army Europe, explains why.
Ben Hodges: This is Why Russia Can't Stop Ukraine's Kursk Offensive
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:54 am
by jfish26
Well at least they're saying the quiet part out loud.
Vance says Trump’s plan to end war in Ukraine could include creating demilitarized zone
In a podcast interview, JD Vance also said a “peace settlement” could involve barring Ukraine from joining the NATO alliance.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -war-plan/
Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance recently laid out a potential Trump administration’s approach to end Russia’s war in Ukraine, saying Donald Trump’s handling of the conflict could include establishing a “demilitarized zone” in Ukrainian territory now occupied by Russia.
The approach would mark a dramatic change from the Biden administration’s policy — which is focused on providing military and other assistance, along with Europe and other allies — to help Ukraine repel and reverse Russian aggression.
“I think what this looks like is Trump sits down, he says to the Russians, the Ukrainians, the Europeans: You guys need to figure out what does a peaceful settlement look like? And what it probably looks like is the current line of demarcation between Russia and Ukraine, that becomes like a demilitarized zone,” Vance said Wednesday on “The Shawn Ryan Show.”
The proposed demilitarized zone, Vance added, would be “heavily fortified so the Russians don’t invade again.” As part of the peace plan, he said, Ukraine would maintain its independence in exchange for a guarantee of neutrality — meaning Ukraine would not join NATO or other “allied institutions.”
The Republican senator from Ohio didn’t specify who would control the “demilitarized zone,” but he said the “current line of demarcation” would remain. Ukraine therefore would not reclaim its territory that Russia now occupies. It’s not clear whether the proposed demilitarized zone would be within currently Russian- or Ukrainian-occupied territory.
What in the fuck, in the name of Ronald Wilson Reagan, is this!??!!
Yes, there should be a "demilitarized zone". You may call it,
no Russian military in Ukraine.
The FUCK kind of gangster shit is the
United States telling a democracy - an imperfect, messy, corruption-laced democracy, but a democracy - that we require it to give up territory and forgo defensive alliances (which, to be clear, advantage
US) as a condition to ending a war brought upon it by Russia?
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:10 am
by KUTradition
playing devil’s advocate here…if a demilitarized zone were to happen, why wouldn’t BOTH countries cede territory?
why would be only on Ukraine to give up territory?
it’s Crimea all over again, but under a different guise
jfc
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:13 am
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:10 am
playing devil’s advocate here…if a demilitarized zone were to happen, why wouldn’t BOTH countries cede territory?
why would be only on Ukraine to give up territory?
it’s Crimea all over again, but under a different guise
jfc
Why would Ukraine be required to give up territory at all?
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:15 am
by KUTradition
jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:13 am
KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:10 am
playing devil’s advocate here…if a demilitarized zone were to happen, why wouldn’t BOTH countries cede territory?
why would be only on Ukraine to give up territory?
it’s Crimea all over again, but under a different guise
jfc
Why would Ukraine be required to give up territory at all?
for peace!!