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Re: I believe her
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:59 pm
by ousdahl
Welp...
Re: I believe her
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:54 pm
by jhawks99
Who now?
Re: I believe her
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:26 pm
by ousdahl
During the winter of her freshman year, a drunken dormitory party unsettled her deeply. She and some classmates had been drinking heavily when, she says, a freshman named Brett Kavanaugh pulled down his pants and thrust his penis at her, prompting her to swat it away and inadvertently touch it...
At least seven people, including Ms. Ramirez’s mother, heard about the Yale incident long before Mr. Kavanaugh was a federal judge. Two of those people were classmates who learned of it just days after the party occurred, suggesting that it was discussed among students at the time.
We also uncovered a previously unreported story about Mr. Kavanaugh in his freshman year that echoes Ms. Ramirez’s allegation. A classmate, Max Stier, saw Mr. Kavanaugh with his pants down at a different drunken dorm party, where friends pushed his penis into the hand of a female student. Mr. Stier, who runs a nonprofit organization in Washington, notified senators and the F.B.I. about this account, but the F.B.I. did not investigate and Mr. Stier has declined to discuss it publicly. (We corroborated the story with two officials who have communicated with Mr. Stier.)
...
Ms. Ramirez’s legal team gave the F.B.I. a list of at least 25 individuals who may have had corroborating evidence. But the bureau — in its supplemental background investigation — interviewed none of them, though we learned many of these potential witnesses tried in vain to reach the F.B.I. on their own.
Two F.B.I. agents interviewed Ms. Ramirez, telling her that they found her “credible.” But the Republican-controlled Senate had imposed strict limits on the investigation. “‘We have to wait to get authorization to do anything else,’” Bill Pittard, one of Ms. Ramirez’s lawyers, recalled the agents saying. “It was almost a little apologetic.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/14/sund ... -yale.html
Re: I believe her
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:42 pm
by Geezer
Elections have consequences.
Re: I believe her
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:43 pm
by zsn
Geezer wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:42 pm
Elections have consequences.
Yes, and the consequence should be that no one who even thought about voting to confirm should never be elected to any public office. Can happen in at least a few cases (Collins, Gardner, McSally)
Re: I believe her
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:55 pm
by ousdahl
Re: I believe her
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:57 pm
by Deleted User 89
sigh...
Re: I believe her
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:05 pm
by ousdahl
One part I don’t get -
In an apparent effort to justify its handling of the investigation, the FBI said it was conducting a background check rather than a criminal investigation, which meant that “the authorities, policies, and procedures used to investigate criminal matters did not apply,” according to the letter.
OK. So how does not being bound by criminal procedure make a background check
less thorough?
It’s not like background checks are subject to a statute of limitations, or a bunch of elements that need to be satisfied
Re: I believe her
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:19 am
by ousdahl
sooo Olympic gymnasts on Capitol Hill testifying against Larry Nassar, and also throwing the FBI under the bus for knowing the allegations but not doing shit about it
Re: I believe her
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:25 am
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:19 am
sooo Olympic gymnasts on Capitol Hill testifying against Larry Nassar, and also throwing the FBI under the bus for knowing the allegations but not doing shit about it
That was brutal to watch. Feel terrible for all the gymnasts involved. Sounds like multiple entities protected him.
Re: I believe her
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:31 am
by ousdahl
Yea.
I shouldn’t have just said the fbi.
They threw the whole system under the bus.
Re: I believe her
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:51 am
by ousdahl