Totally random thread

[KUTradition]

was that before or after basic agricultural practices had been established?

[zsn]

Tom Standage wrote a book in the early 2000s called A History of the World in Six Glasses. Half of the glasses are alcohol containing. In it is a great quote about the anthropology of beer: No one can say for certain if beer is liquid bread or if bread is solid beer.

I remember reading about an incident several decades ago about cows on a farm getting drunk (or at least exhibiting symptoms thereof). Upon further investigation they found that a freight train carrying grain had derailed on the tracks bordering/running through the farm and a significant portion of the grain had spilled. They just put the cars back on the track and took off, not bothering to collect the spilled grain. So this gets wet and starts fermenting. Not clear if the cows started to eat the grain before or after fermentation began but were getting sloshed eating the grain and kept going to it preferentially!!

So, it’s not just humans, or even primates.

[DCHawk1]

Ur was the greatest city of Sumer. Under Ur-Nammu (roughly 2050 BC), the city developed the oldest known code of laws and regulations (some three centuries before Hammurabi), which covered everything from crime to labor to currency to credit to trade. Ur was the first city in man's history to surpass 50,000 people and was the trading hub of the Mesopotamian region. Among the primary products made in and traded from Ur was beer.

Ur is also famous as the home of a man named Terah, who took his son Abram, Abram's wife Sarai, and his grandson Lot and left Ur for Canaan (eventually settling in Haran instead).

Abram talked to God, changed his and his wife's names, and had one son by his wife and one son by his concubine Hagar. His wife's son, Isaac, became the father of the Jewish people. His concubine's son, Ishmael, became the father of the Arab people.

All of which is to say that most of modern civilization -- including the people of the three great monotheistic religions -- is derived from an ancient society that existed, in part, to make and trade beer.

The end

[pdub]

Tom Standage wrote a book in the early 2000s called A History of the World in Six Glasses. Half of the glasses are alcohol containing. In it is a great quote about the anthropology of beer: No one can say for certain if beer is liquid bread or if bread is solid beer.

I have read this book.
It is good.

[KUTradition]

Ur was the greatest city of Sumer. Under Ur-Nammu (roughly 2050 BC), the city developed the oldest known code of laws and regulations (some three centuries before Hammurabi), which covered everything from crime to labor to currency to credit to trade. Ur was the first city in man's history to surpass 50,000 people and was the trading hub of the Mesopotamian region. Among the primary products made in and traded from Ur was beer.

Ur is also famous as the home of a man named Terah, who took his son Abram, Abram's wife Sarai, and his grandson Lot and left Ur for Canaan (eventually settling in Haran instead).

Abram talked to God, changed his and his wife's names, and had one son by his wife and one son by his concubine Hagar. His wife's son, Isaac, became the father of the Jewish people. His concubine's son, Ishmael, became the father of the Arab people.

All of which is to say that most of modern civilization -- including the people of the three great monotheistic religions -- is derived from an ancient society that existed, in part, to make and trade beer.

The end

i love mythology

[DCHawk1]

I know. I've read your posts in the "even more frightening" thread.

[DCHawk1]

Seriously, though, that THAT was your takeaway from the post suggests a mental disorder of some sort.

[KUTradition]

lol…you were doing well, right up until Abraham talked to God

[DCHawk1]

Again...that THAT is what you took from the post...is indicative of a fixation/obsession.

They make meds for that.

[KUTradition]

actually, the obsession was bringing it into the conversation at all

[DCHawk1]

LOL

[ousdahl]

oh, god said to Abraham, kill me a son
Abe said man you must be puttin me on

[Deleted User 863]

Seriously, though, that THAT was your takeaway from the post suggests a mental disorder of some sort.

Religion seriously triggers Trad.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Religion seriously triggers Gutter. I am not ashamed to admit it. I feel religion/s is/are the biggest downfall of mankind- and yet I completely understand and actually respect that people feel the opposite.

Carry on my brothers and sisters - and cousins.......

[defixione]

Religion is like any other club. Which, of the thousands, do you prefer to join?

[Deleted User 863]

I care to join none, but find it strange when people judge others for their decision to be religious.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

I care to join none, but find it strange when people judge others for their decision to be religious.

I have no issue with people who choose to be religious. I have a big issue with those who allow their religion and/or use their religion as an "excuse" to dictate their NEGATIVE behavior/s.
I know, who am I to be the ultimate judge on what is or isn't truly negative behavior? I think there is generally a pretty black and white line in regards to what should be considered right and wrong - but of course there is often a gray area in-between.

Anyways, getting back to totally random.....
Maybe this should go on the conspiracy thread - or the dogs thread.
I'm being 100% serious when I say I am SOMEWHAT concerned that I have walked around in my neighborhood and noticed an unusual amount of dog (at least I hope it's dog) diarrhea on the sidewalk/s.
Can't help but wonder what if anything is the cause of this. Possibly bad tap water? Bad dog stomach virus? I have lived in my neighborhood for 15 years and have never seen it close to this extent.

[zsn]

Religion is like any other club. Which, of the thousands, do you prefer to join?

However, most clubs don’t go all out and make laws to force other people into doing things that they approve. I am not aware of the Texas Philatelic Association passing laws that require people to collect certain stamps or prevent people from collecting other stamps or award bounty to those who turn in others who collect stamps from certain countries.

[DCHawk1]

Religion seriously triggers Gutter.

But did my post trigger you?

You didn't respond to it, much triggered-ly.

I'd guess -- and correct me if I'm wrong -- that you didn't read the post as religious. Rather, you read it as it was written, using the common/vulgar history as understood by, literally billions of people.

[defixione]

Religion is like any other club. Which, of the thousands, do you prefer to join?

However, most clubs don’t go all out and make laws to force other people into doing things that they approve. I am not aware of the Texas Philatelic Association passing laws that require people to collect certain stamps or prevent people from collecting other stamps or award bounty to those who turn in others who collect stamps from certain countries.

Right. That's why they choose a religious club instead of a philatelic club. They want to be cloistered with kin.