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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:25 am
by Deleted User 863
Thanks guys.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:26 am
by Deleted User 89
you do know, don’t you, about this thing called google?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:30 am
by PhDhawk
I'm extremely proud of America's involvement in vaccine development, vaccine roll-out, the way it's been administered. In that regard, go USA!

I'm just disappointed in the 30-40% who won't get vaccinated, who should. And the misinformation campaigns that encourage it.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:31 am
by Deleted User 863
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:30 am I'm extremely proud of America's involvement in vaccine development, vaccine roll-out, the way it's been administered. In that regard, go USA!

I'm just disappointed in the 30-40% who won't get vaccinated, who should. And the misinformation campaigns that encourage it.
Same.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:35 am
by TDub
I thought we declared independence from the virus

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:39 am
by Deleted User 89
TDub wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:35 am I thought we declared independence from the virus
mich did

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:41 am
by TDub

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:45 am
by Deleted User 89
i didn’t look at the time stamp in that, but i think he was hoping we would have been more vaccinated by the fourth

as soon as rates plateaued, the writing was on the wall

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:48 am
by MICHHAWK
TDub wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:35 am I thought we declared independence from the virus
the folks did. the deviants and malcontents will not because they are dependant on their capture. they never have to move forward as long as they can claim to be a prisoner.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:49 am
by TDub
The whitehouse 4th of july party was called independence from the virus. At least thats what the networks were promoting as i flipped through the channels.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:49 am
by Deleted User 89
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:48 am
TDub wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:35 am I thought we declared independence from the virus
the folks did. the deviants and malcontents will not because they are dependant on their capture. they never have to move forward as long as they can claim to be a prisoner.
wut?

seek mental help

or just keep making shit up...no wonder lobs liked you. birds of a fucking feather

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:03 am
by zsn
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:53 am What are other major countries vaccination rates like?

Just curious because we can vilify rural americans not getting vaccinated all we want, but this virus didn't originate here. It traveled here. So if the rest of the world isn't getting vaccinated then that risk of mutations will remain regardless of how much we beat our heads on the table about rural Republicans not getting vaccinated.
Let’s just take your first two sentences. We could have been waaay better of than we are, and that is solely because a faction of the population thought that this whole thing was a political issue and not an epidemiological problem.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:16 am
by Deleted User 863
zsn wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:03 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:53 am What are other major countries vaccination rates like?

Just curious because we can vilify rural americans not getting vaccinated all we want, but this virus didn't originate here. It traveled here. So if the rest of the world isn't getting vaccinated then that risk of mutations will remain regardless of how much we beat our heads on the table about rural Republicans not getting vaccinated.
Let’s just take your first two sentences. We could have been waaay better of than we are, and that is solely because a faction of the population thought that this whole thing was a political issue and not an epidemiological problem.
Again....as Trad pointed out earlier....its not just rural Republicans refusing to vaccinate. You think all that black and hispanic communities that are choosing not to vaccinate are Republicans? I don't.

That line of thinking is part of why it's become a politcal issue and will continue to be one.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:20 am
by PhDhawk
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:16 am
zsn wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:03 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:53 am What are other major countries vaccination rates like?

Just curious because we can vilify rural americans not getting vaccinated all we want, but this virus didn't originate here. It traveled here. So if the rest of the world isn't getting vaccinated then that risk of mutations will remain regardless of how much we beat our heads on the table about rural Republicans not getting vaccinated.
Let’s just take your first two sentences. We could have been waaay better of than we are, and that is solely because a faction of the population thought that this whole thing was a political issue and not an epidemiological problem.
Again....as Trad pointed out earlier....its not just rural Republicans refusing to vaccinate. You think all that black and hispanic communities that are choosing not to vaccinate are Republicans? I don't.

That line of thinking is part of why it's become a politcal issue and will continue to be one.
Also, anti-vaxxers was never aligned with a specific political party, regardless anti-vaxxers can eat a bowl of dicks, Nor does fear of needles follow partisan lines to my knowledge.

However, I do think that the people who think they're being a modern-day Patrick Henry ARE political. And they can eat a bag of dicks.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:23 am
by Deleted User 863
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:20 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:16 am
zsn wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:03 am

Let’s just take your first two sentences. We could have been waaay better of than we are, and that is solely because a faction of the population thought that this whole thing was a political issue and not an epidemiological problem.
Again....as Trad pointed out earlier....its not just rural Republicans refusing to vaccinate. You think all that black and hispanic communities that are choosing not to vaccinate are Republicans? I don't.

That line of thinking is part of why it's become a politcal issue and will continue to be one.
Also, anti-vaxxers was never aligned with a specific political party, regardless anti-vaxxers can eat a bowl of dicks, Nor does fear of needles follow partisan lines to my knowledge.

However, I do think that the people who think they're being a modern-day Patrick Henry ARE political. And they can eat a bag of dicks.
With you 100% on this.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:50 am
by Deleted User 89
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:16 am
zsn wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:03 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:53 am What are other major countries vaccination rates like?

Just curious because we can vilify rural americans not getting vaccinated all we want, but this virus didn't originate here. It traveled here. So if the rest of the world isn't getting vaccinated then that risk of mutations will remain regardless of how much we beat our heads on the table about rural Republicans not getting vaccinated.
Let’s just take your first two sentences. We could have been waaay better of than we are, and that is solely because a faction of the population thought that this whole thing was a political issue and not an epidemiological problem.
Again....as Trad pointed out earlier....its not just rural Republicans refusing to vaccinate. You think all that black and hispanic communities that are choosing not to vaccinate are Republicans? I don't.

That line of thinking is part of why it's become a politcal issue and will continue to be one.
zsn’s point, i think, is that the right largely resisted the severity of the pandemic from the jump, prior to vaccines even being a thing

had they taken it serious, and followed the science and what our healthcare professionals were saying, we’d be in a much better spot now

sure, there’d still be hold-outs that wouldn’t get vaccinated, but that number would likely be much smaller

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:51 am
by Deleted User 89
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:20 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:16 am
zsn wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:03 am

Let’s just take your first two sentences. We could have been waaay better of than we are, and that is solely because a faction of the population thought that this whole thing was a political issue and not an epidemiological problem.
Again....as Trad pointed out earlier....its not just rural Republicans refusing to vaccinate. You think all that black and hispanic communities that are choosing not to vaccinate are Republicans? I don't.

That line of thinking is part of why it's become a politcal issue and will continue to be one.
Also, anti-vaxxers was never aligned with a specific political party, regardless anti-vaxxers can eat a bowl of dicks, Nor does fear of needles follow partisan lines to my knowledge.

However, I do think that the people who think they're being a modern-day Patrick Henry ARE political. And they can eat a bag of dicks.
which is more, a bag of dicks or a bowl?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:55 am
by Deleted User 89
and illy, it hasn’t “become” a political issue...it’s always been one

and i know you like to argue, without evidence, that both sides politicized it, but only one side follows the leader that said it was a hoax, said it would miraculously just disappear, said to use bleach or inject disinfectant, and asked about putting UV light inside the body, among other things flying in the face of medical fact

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:56 am
by ousdahl
The Patrick Henry analogy is interesting.

Among the anti-vax demographic, how many are folks who legit think they’re being true patriots, just like the founding fathers envisioned, by defying the gummint’s health precautions.

And among that demographic, the sentiment seems to extend to far more than health precautions.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:14 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:55 am and illy, it hasn’t “become” a political issue...it’s always been one

and i know you like to argue, without evidence, that both sides politicized it, but only one side follows the leader that said it was a hoax, said it would miraculously just disappear, said to use bleach or inject disinfectant, and asked about putting UV light inside the body, among other things flying in the face of medical fact
Those extremes are such a small portion of the people on the right imo.

I know almost nobody who thinks it was a total hoax.

I know lots of people who don't think it was deadly enough to the vast majority of the population for year long shutdowns. I don't necessarily agree, but it's an opinion that i can respectfully disagree with.

Both sides politicized it. Albeit in different ways and to different degrees. But politicized nonetheless. And it continues to be politicized to this very day. By both sides.