DeletedUser wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 12:04 pm
But China isn't doing the same thing to Puerto Rico.
thank the fucking lord!
I know "this" is your thing, but my goodness. You're even having trouble with your own posts. Like are we selling this stuff or are we giving it away? Details matter. Slow down a bit.
this is a very weak argument in semantics, and seems to be offered in a way to move beside the point.
BiggDick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:09 am
I look forward to the headlines about Biden using his remaining days in office for the benefit of the FDA, and roads and bridges and railways and ports, and veterans' benefits, and WIC programs, and NASA.
NASA???
JFC!
It took me less than 2 minute to find all these links.
Gutter wrote: Fri Nov 8th 2:16pm
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
BiggDick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:09 am
I look forward to the headlines about Biden using his remaining days in office for the benefit of the FDA, and roads and bridges and railways and ports, and veterans' benefits, and WIC programs, and NASA.
NASA???
JFC!
It took me less than 2 minute to find all these links.
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 12:04 pm
But China isn't doing the same thing to Puerto Rico.
thank the fucking lord!
I know "this" is your thing, but my goodness. You're even having trouble with your own posts. Like are we selling this stuff or are we giving it away? Details matter. Slow down a bit.
this is a very weak argument in semantics, and seems to be offered in a way to move beside the point.
Indeed.
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:33 am
I look forward to learning about how these facts you and gutter have raised are beside the point.
BiggDick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:09 am
I look forward to the headlines about Biden using his remaining days in office for the benefit of the FDA, and roads and bridges and railways and ports, and veterans' benefits, and WIC programs, and NASA.
NASA???
JFC!
It took me less than 2 minute to find all these links.
BiggDick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:12 pm
of all the issues I discussed when requested, I just think it's silly for the takeaway to be debating "giving" versus "selling."
but then, I remember the way you guys have already admitted your own willful ignorance in this thread, and it makes a lot more sense.
after thinking about it, I do get the point about revenue. Should have phrased that particular big differently.
I can think of a, uh, 21st century geopolitical history comparison to that sort of oopsie and qualified-but-only-partial walkback, but I don't think you're gonna like it.
BiggDick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:32 pm
you've been awful CoyDC today.
Maybe what you should have said in response to Illy was, "But it turned out that the sourcing [for my claims] was inaccurate and wrong and in some cases* misleading. And for that, I am disappointed. And I regret it."
* Powell's explanation included the word "deliberately" here. I do not think you did anything deliberately misleading. I don't think you even did anything especially egregious - I just find it kinda funny that what you did rhymes a little bit, in a silly way, with something you are (not unjustifiably!) highly critical of.
Rather, the issue is the “do we have to do this every time” crowd took a report about arms sales to Taiwan and rather disingenuously tried to frame the intent as only go generate revenue, then narrowly cherry-picked my response (to the conspicuous exclusion of all the other points) so as to nitpick “selling” and “giving,” all in a way to avoid the elephant in the room that is more imperial saber-rattling by the Biden administration. You then even went so far as to toss a word salad about the FDA and WIC and NASA.
And, it’s funny you try to lecture me about sourcing and also mention Powell. Cuz bear in mind, it’s you, not me, who is among the posters who so stubbornly maintain it would be inappropriate to question in real-time the same government who perpetrated so many mistakes and lies and propaganda, such as Powell’s explanation.
I see that you have reached the phase of...whatever course it is that you are on...where you cannot even take a winking joke.
Even when that winking joke includes, in a couple different ways, a nod toward you being on the right side of the joke.
Anyway, not one single time have I (nor, as far as I recall, has anyone else) told you anything remotely like, "it would be inappropriate to question in real-time the same government who perpetrated so many mistakes and lies and propaganda."
You seem to wish people would go all rah-rah grunt-grunt warhawk jingoist on you as regarding Russia/Ukraine, but that is not what has happened. At the risk of being called CoyDC, I will just say that the thread is full of examples of what actually has happened.
BiggDick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 7:02 pm
Rather, the issue is the “do we have to do this every time” crowd took a report about arms sales to Taiwan and rather disingenuously tried to frame the intent as only go generate revenue,
No.
We pointed out that you didn't appear to understand the article that YOU posted.
Do you think we can't keep track of what is going on here?
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2024 7:34 pm
I see that you have reached the phase of...whatever course it is that you are on...where you cannot even take a winking joke.
Even when that winking joke includes, in a couple different ways, a nod toward you being on the right side of the joke.
Anyway, not one single time have I (nor, as far as I recall, has anyone else) told you anything remotely like, "it would be inappropriate to question in real-time the same government who perpetrated so many mistakes and lies and propaganda."
You seem to wish people would go all rah-rah grunt-grunt warhawk jingoist on you as regarding Russia/Ukraine, but that is not what has happened. At the risk of being called CoyDC, I will just say that the thread is full of examples of what actually has happened.
Oh right on.
In that case, lemme just sincerely say - thanks for going for a joke!