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Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:22 pm
by ousdahl
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:13 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:59 pm
“The Left has their own way. They have created a culture where it is no longer safe to joke about, much less laugh about, almost anything.“
Seriously?
You realize the left has a de facto monopoly on humor, right?
The right has...Dennis Miller? And I’m not even sure he’s funny.
I have seen multiple interviews with comedians across the spectrum who complain about how hard it is to come up with jokes that won’t get them blacklisted. If it isn’t lampooning straight, White, Christian, conservative males, it’s not okay. I see the difference from ten years ago when I showed humorous video clips in my classes to today. Ten years ago, kids were laughing and suggesting other ones that I could use; today, they sit in near silence, looking at each other out of the corners of their eyes for some indication that laughing won’t make them guilty of thought crime. It is truly sad.
Cornered market on funny? My rendition of late-night “comedy”:
Trevor Noah: Donald Trump is fat, orange, and stupid.
Jimmy Fallon: Donald Trump is stupid, fat, and orange.
Jimmy Kimmel: Donald Trump is orange, stupid, and fat.
Bill Maher: Donald Trump is a stupid, orange, fat f*ck.
Gold, Jerry; gold, I tell ya!
I'd be curious to see these multiple interviews as well. Got any links?
and what sort of humorous video clips do you show in your classes? They were funny 10 years ago but not today?
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:31 pm
by Deleted User 310
jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:13 pm
Yes, conservatives have become more and more mean, and even more so after Dear Leader was elected.
It is all working out exactly the way that they intended.
Sure seems like that statement applies to many on the left too....
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:58 pm
by Shirley
zsn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:50 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:21 am
is there any way to measure which side is angrier? Or rather, which side uses anger as some sort of mechanism?
when my dad asks what my beef is with Fox News, I reply that I like my news to be reported without shouting about it.
compare the tone and temperament on Fox News to, say, NPR.
It irks me to no end, and I am highly offended by the notion that there is an impression that NPR "belongs to a side". Fox clearly does. MSNBC's commentary section clearly has a trend. NPR on the other hand is about as objective as one could get. Just because more people with a liberal point of view listen to NPR does not automatically make the news outlet biased. This is a giant trap that the CONServatives have laid out and one that liberals are only too eager to fall into.
This is in regard to content. However, no one can match Fox News for the tone and temperament - when was the last time any other news outlet was cheerleading an armed mob?
Everyone knows that the news has a liberal bias.
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:08 pm
by zsn
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:31 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:13 pm
Yes, conservatives have become more and more mean, and even more so after Dear Leader was elected.
It is all working out exactly the way that they intended.
Sure seems like that statement applies to many on the left too....
Until you can show me evidence, even on a 20% basis, of armed liberal masses simultaneously assembling in multiple cities (and threatening public health) you can take your "both sides" argument and shove it.
BOTH SIDES DON'T DO IT. PERIOD. END OF ARGUMENT.
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:19 pm
by Deleted User 289
zsn - You're adding "armed masses simultaneously assembling in multiple cities (and threatening public health)" to the equation. Which of course is inexcusable but trust me, liberals have done some really shitty things of their own while "protesting".
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:39 pm
by Geezer
Only the cons can play the victim while they loot the treasury.
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:43 pm
by Deleted User 310
zsn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:08 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:31 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:13 pm
Yes, conservatives have become more and more mean, and even more so after Dear Leader was elected.
It is all working out exactly the way that they intended.
Sure seems like that statement applies to many on the left too....
Until you can show me evidence, even on a 20% basis, of armed liberal masses simultaneously assembling in multiple cities (and threatening public health) you can take your "both sides" argument and shove it.
BOTH SIDES DON'T DO IT. PERIOD. END OF ARGUMENT.
I was replying to the comment about "being mean"....and both sides are absolutely mean to the other side....and even more so since "dear leader" has been elected.
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:45 pm
by Deleted User 310
Feral wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:58 pm
zsn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:50 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:21 am
is there any way to measure which side is angrier? Or rather, which side uses anger as some sort of mechanism?
when my dad asks what my beef is with Fox News, I reply that I like my news to be reported without shouting about it.
compare the tone and temperament on Fox News to, say, NPR.
It irks me to no end, and I am highly offended by the notion that there is an impression that NPR "belongs to a side". Fox clearly does. MSNBC's commentary section clearly has a trend. NPR on the other hand is about as objective as one could get. Just because more people with a liberal point of view listen to NPR does not automatically make the news outlet biased. This is a giant trap that the CONServatives have laid out and one that liberals are only too eager to fall into.
This is in regard to content. However, no one can match Fox News for the tone and temperament - when was the last time any other news outlet was cheerleading an armed mob?
Everyone knows that the news has a liberal bias.
CNN is almost as bad as FOX these last handful of years.
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:48 am
by Deleted User 62
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:45 pm
Feral wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:58 pm
zsn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:50 am
It irks me to no end, and I am highly offended by the notion that there is an impression that NPR "belongs to a side". Fox clearly does. MSNBC's commentary section clearly has a trend. NPR on the other hand is about as objective as one could get. Just because more people with a liberal point of view listen to NPR does not automatically make the news outlet biased. This is a giant trap that the CONServatives have laid out and one that liberals are only too eager to fall into.
This is in regard to content. However, no one can match Fox News for the tone and temperament - when was the last time any other news outlet was cheerleading an armed mob?
Everyone knows that the news has a liberal bias.
CNN is almost as bad as FOX these last handful of years.
No
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:12 am
by Deleted User 289
Mr. Obvious here. CNN and FOX are not simply reporting the news and are catering to their audience/s.
They both suck in terms of "reporting" "news". They both are excellent in what they set out to do.
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:15 am
by Deleted User 310
Grandma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:12 am
Mr. Obvious here. CNN and FOX are not simply reporting the news and are catering to their audience/s.
They both suck in terms of "reporting" "news". They both are excellent in what they set out to do.
I think that's a fantastic way to put it....and this is coming from a guy who watches a lot of CNN.
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:25 am
by ousdahl
re: both sides being mean, sure. But it just kinda hits different when one side's "meanness" seems to stem from a monocultural identity.
re: CNN almost as bad as Fox, maybe. I don't watch much of either, though no one has ever given me shit for watching CNN like I got for watching Fox - in this very thread!
maybe the bigger difference between CNN and Fox is the way the Fox News kool aid seems to just affect their viewers more profoundly - potus included?
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:46 am
by Deleted User 289
My basic simple analysis in terms of the differences. CNN primarily accuses. Fox primarily defends.
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:55 am
by ousdahl
well, that depends.
During this current administration, sure.
But previously, Fox News wasn't defending anyone about their choice of mustard on a burger.
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:06 am
by Deleted User 62
I don't understand how anyone could watch Fox news and not recognize that is simply not news.
I can watch 30minutes and count out a minimum of 5 name calling events.
Name calling should not be part of a "news" broadcast.
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:13 am
by ousdahl
turned it on now, just for laughs.
"well of course doctors say we're reopening too soon, but the thing you need to remember about doctors is, they never wanna take any risks...I had a friend growing up and her dad was a neurosurgeon, and he made her wear a helmet to walk down the street to the bus stop."
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:22 pm
by Shirley
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:52 am
by Deleted User 289
I just looked at Nikki Haley's past tweets. One thing I can and will give her credit for, she really wasn't an asshole on Twitter. Well, other than being proud of Diamond and Silk.
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:06 pm
by Shirley
Re: Fox and Friends
Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:17 pm
by Shirley