Kansas Crimson

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:49 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:31 am We’re balancing Dajuan’s potential contributions to the massive unknown of bringing in a senior transfer and expecting them to learn the system and be noticeably better in one year, though.

It seems just as likely we bring in a guy like that and bury them on the bench behind the known commodities.

I just don’t see that being a big unknown. If you can shoot and play at this level, you won’t forget how to do it after a transfer.

And I would definitely rather gamble on it than put our eggs in the wrong PG basket 2 years in a row.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:53 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:49 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:31 am We’re balancing Dajuan’s potential contributions to the massive unknown of bringing in a senior transfer and expecting them to learn the system and be noticeably better in one year, though.

It seems just as likely we bring in a guy like that and bury them on the bench behind the known commodities.

I just don’t see that being a big unknown. If you can shoot and play at this level, you won’t forget how to do it after a transfer.

And I would definitely rather gamble on it than put our eggs in the wrong PG basket 2 years in a row.

Yeah, you accept the transfer and then you play the best guy.

In that scenario there's a good chance that Harris or Thompson is the best guy though.

Cade Cunningham ain't coming here, and asking PG who's only a good player to adjust that quickly is a big ask.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:53 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:49 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:31 am We’re balancing Dajuan’s potential contributions to the massive unknown of bringing in a senior transfer and expecting them to learn the system and be noticeably better in one year, though.

It seems just as likely we bring in a guy like that and bury them on the bench behind the known commodities.

I just don’t see that being a big unknown. If you can shoot and play at this level, you won’t forget how to do it after a transfer.

And I would definitely rather gamble on it than put our eggs in the wrong PG basket 2 years in a row.

Yeah, you accept the transfer and then you play the best guy.

In that scenario there's a good chance that Harris or Thompson is the best guy though.

Cade Cunningham ain't coming here, and asking PG who's only a good player to adjust that quickly is a big ask.

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:54 am Unless ALL of those guys on that starting five make some significant upgrades to their respective games that line up spells trouble to me and I have a bad feeling we will be having the same discussions as we are having now.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:48 am Are you presuming Marcus gets shown the door, then?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:08 am there's also the whole issue of, what high profile pg is gonna wanna transfer to a school as the ncaa hammer looms.

and also the issue of, what's a transfer pg really gonna do to make Och and Haunk start hitting open shots, make Dave spaz out less, etc.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:08 am there's also the whole issue of, what high profile pg is gonna wanna transfer to a school as the ncaa hammer looms.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:11 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:08 am there's also the whole issue of, what high profile pg is gonna wanna transfer to a school as the ncaa hammer looms.

and also the issue of, what's a transfer pg really gonna do to make Och and Haunk start hitting open shots, make Dave spaz out less, etc.

Yeah regarding this point. It helps so much when you have a PG that can finish at the rim. MG just hasn't proven it that much yet. Compared to what we have had with Sherron, Tyshawn, Frank, DTae and Dot. That opens up so many things. Also, it's nice when your PG can throw lobs. MG can't.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:58 am

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:54 am Unless ALL of those guys on that starting five make some significant upgrades to their respective games that line up spells trouble to me and I have a bad feeling we will be having the same discussions as we are having now.

Yes, and that’s why I think we need to take a hard look everywhere to bring someone into the program.

Otherwise, we could go into every game like we do now and cross our fingers that we’re getting the hot version of the team.

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:13 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:58 am

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:54 am Unless ALL of those guys on that starting five make some significant upgrades to their respective games that line up spells trouble to me and I have a bad feeling we will be having the same discussions as we are having now.

Yes, and that’s why I think we need to take a hard look everywhere to bring someone into the program.

Otherwise, we could go into every game like we do now and cross our fingers that we’re getting the hot version of the team.

You have to believe, at least I hope so that Self is thinking the same thing and they have tried or are working on that very thing. For all the reasons every one has mentioned already I find that highly unlikely we add that immediate impact transfer which this roster so desperately needs.

Stagnant assistants, negative recruiting and the NCAA hammer have all played a part in what I would consider a couple of 'mediocre' classes for a school like KU. Was Josh Jackson KU's last real 'one and done'?

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:12 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:08 am there's also the whole issue of, what high profile pg is gonna wanna transfer to a school as the ncaa hammer looms.

Reeeeally reaching now.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:18 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:12 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:08 am there's also the whole issue of, what high profile pg is gonna wanna transfer to a school as the ncaa hammer looms.

Reeeeally reaching now.

Asked specifically if he thought the NCAA case, which stems from a federal investigation into corruption in college basketball that was announced in 2017, had kept KU from landing any players, Self said, “Oh yeah. No question. No question it has. Yeah. Absolutely.”

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:23 am Forgot about Billy 'Charger' Preston.

Nothing against that mindset of filling your roster with four or five OAD because we all know that doesn't work but this year, while weird also shows that filling your roster full of good to average talent won't cut it either.