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Re: Charges

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:49 am
by Shirley
Does this mean they're never going to get around to charging Trump?



An Atlanta-area investigation of alleged election interference by former president Donald Trump and his allies has broadened to include activities in Washington, D.C., and several other states, according to two people with knowledge of the probe — a fresh sign that prosecutors may be building a sprawling case under Georgia’s racketeering laws.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D) launched an investigation more than two years ago to examine efforts by Trump and his allies to overturn his narrow 2020 defeat in Georgia. Along the way, she has signaled publicly that she may use Georgia’s Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) statute to allege that these efforts amounted to a far-reaching criminal scheme.

In recent days, Willis has sought information related to the Trump campaign hiring two firms to find voter fraud across the United States and then burying their findings when they did not find it, allegations that reach beyond Georgia’s borders, said the two individuals, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly about the investigation. At least one of the firms has been subpoenaed by Fulton County investigators.

The state’s RICO statute is among the most expansive in the nation, allowing prosecutors to build racketeering cases around violations of both state and federal laws — and even activities in other states. If Willis does allege a multistate racketeering scheme with Trump at its center, the case could test the bounds of the controversial law and make history in the process. The statute calls for penalties of up to 20 years in prison.

“Georgia’s RICO statute is basically two specified criminal acts that have to be part of a pattern of behavior done with the same intent or to achieve a common result or that have distinguishing characteristics,” said John Malcolm, a former Atlanta-based federal prosecutor who is now a constitutional scholar at the conservative Heritage Foundation. “That’s it. It’s very broad. That doesn’t mean it’s appropriate to charge a former president, but that also doesn’t mean she can’t do it or won’t do it.”

Among Willis’s latest areas of scrutiny is the Trump campaign’s expenditure of more than $1 million on two firms to study whether electoral fraud occurred in the 2020 election, the two individuals said. The Post first reported earlier this year that the work was carried out in the final weeks of 2020, and the campaign never released the findings because the firms, Simpatico Software Systems and Berkeley Research Group, disputed many of Trump’s theories and could not offer any proof that he was the rightful winner of the election.

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Re: Charges

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:51 am
by KUTradition
i just think it means a racketeering case seems more likely since it involves DC and states other than Georgia

Re: Charges

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:56 am
by jfish26
Feral wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:49 am Does this mean they're never going to get around to charging Trump?



An Atlanta-area investigation of alleged election interference by former president Donald Trump and his allies has broadened to include activities in Washington, D.C., and several other states, according to two people with knowledge of the probe — a fresh sign that prosecutors may be building a sprawling case under Georgia’s racketeering laws.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D) launched an investigation more than two years ago to examine efforts by Trump and his allies to overturn his narrow 2020 defeat in Georgia. Along the way, she has signaled publicly that she may use Georgia’s Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) statute to allege that these efforts amounted to a far-reaching criminal scheme.

In recent days, Willis has sought information related to the Trump campaign hiring two firms to find voter fraud across the United States and then burying their findings when they did not find it, allegations that reach beyond Georgia’s borders, said the two individuals, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly about the investigation. At least one of the firms has been subpoenaed by Fulton County investigators.

The state’s RICO statute is among the most expansive in the nation, allowing prosecutors to build racketeering cases around violations of both state and federal laws — and even activities in other states. If Willis does allege a multistate racketeering scheme with Trump at its center, the case could test the bounds of the controversial law and make history in the process. The statute calls for penalties of up to 20 years in prison.

“Georgia’s RICO statute is basically two specified criminal acts that have to be part of a pattern of behavior done with the same intent or to achieve a common result or that have distinguishing characteristics,” said John Malcolm, a former Atlanta-based federal prosecutor who is now a constitutional scholar at the conservative Heritage Foundation. “That’s it. It’s very broad. That doesn’t mean it’s appropriate to charge a former president, but that also doesn’t mean she can’t do it or won’t do it.”

Among Willis’s latest areas of scrutiny is the Trump campaign’s expenditure of more than $1 million on two firms to study whether electoral fraud occurred in the 2020 election, the two individuals said. The Post first reported earlier this year that the work was carried out in the final weeks of 2020, and the campaign never released the findings because the firms, Simpatico Software Systems and Berkeley Research Group, disputed many of Trump’s theories and could not offer any proof that he was the rightful winner of the election.

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Willis is managing a bit of damage control arising from the lawyer for several witnesses failing to tell the witnesses about offers of immunity in exchange for cooperation. I don't read the delay here as problematic; I read it as Willis giving those offers a chance to bear fruit.

Re: Charges

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:46 pm
by Shirley
I recall when that happened and the fervent don't look at me >>> he did it vibe that ensued, as they all rushed to line up to cop a plea.

Re: Charges

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:08 pm
by Shirley
RICO charges aren't new to Fanni Willis.

Sept. 2014: In a lengthy opening statement, peppered with both slangy Southernisms and pointed indignation, Fani Willis, an assistant district attorney in Fulton County, argued that the dozen educators in the courtroom, as well as Dr. Hall, had violated Georgia’s RICO statute, by using the “legitimate enterprise” of the school system to carry out the illegitimate act of cheating...

April/2015: In an unexpectedly harsh sentence after a polarizing six-year ordeal, eight of the 10 educators convicted of racketeering in one of the nation’s largest public school cheating scandals were sentenced to prison terms of up to seven years Tuesday after they refused to take sentencing deals that were predicated on their acceptance of responsibility and a waiver of their right to appeal...

Re: Charges

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:28 pm
by jfish26
Looks like this is the week.


Re: Charges

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:43 pm
by Shirley

Re: Charges

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:06 pm
by Shirley

Re: Charges

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:47 pm
by Shirley

Re: Charges

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:16 pm
by Shirley

Re: Charges

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:37 pm
by Shirley
Uh oh. I think Trump thinks he's going to go "THROUGH" [sic] some things.

Like, "VISCOUS RINOS"?


Re: Charges

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:49 pm
by ousdahl
Apprentice style

Re: Charges

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:53 pm
by jhawks99
Through me under the bus

Like a dog

Re: Charges

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:26 pm
by Sparko
Imagine how you would feel if after a life of crime you were finally going to go down for such a petty crime of Espionage? Treason probably next. Goldberg stuff.

Re: Charges

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:12 am
by Shirley

Re: Charges

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:02 pm
by Shirley
Some people say that in addition to flipping on Trump to get limited immunity prior to testifying before the grand jury, Chief of Staff Mark Meadows was also involved in removing a lot of classified documents from the White House at Trump's request, the night before Trump left:


Re: Charges

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:59 pm
by Shirley
Seeing as how we're on indictment watch while "Law and Odor" republican cult enablers Comer, Jordan, Grassley, MTG, et al conspire to go after republican FBI Director Wray:


Re: Charges

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:47 pm
by defixione

Re: Charges

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:57 pm
by Shirley
Time has come today:



It was not immediately known what specific charges the former president is facing. One person briefed on the matter said there were seven counts.

The Justice Department took the legally and politically momentous step of lodging federal criminal charges against former President Donald J. Trump, multiple people familiar with the matter said on Thursday, following a lengthy investigation of his handling of classified documents that he took with him upon leaving office and then obstructing the government’s efforts to reclaim them.

The indictment, filed in Federal District Court in Miami, is the first time in American history a former president has faced federal charges. It puts the nation in an extraordinary position, given Mr. Trump’s status not only as a onetime chief executive but also as the front-runner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination to face President Biden, whose administration will now be seeking to convict his potential rival...

Re: Charges

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:19 pm
by Shirley
Hmmmm,

Jonathan Swan:

A casual observer might imagine Trump’s rivals in the Republican presidential primary are thrilled that he’s being indicted. Not so. The last time he was indicted, in New York, Republican voters rallied around him, and his rivals were forced to defend him. Now, they are facing the prospect of Trump completely shutting them off from media attention.