Kansas Crimson

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:11 am

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:01 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:58 am

i haven’t read the news, so feel free to link to whichever stories show that Biden lied

i’m basing my response on illy’s earlier (false) declaration that Biden lied from the get-go

and i’m in no way giving Biden a pass. i said on page one of this thread that he fucked up and this whole mess is a clusterfuck

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:54 am https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ldren.html

that says the Pentagon, not Biden

Days after the attack, President Joe Biden gave a speech in which he marked the withdrawal of American troops in Afghanistan by the August 31 deadline. He touted America's ability to strike terrorists and targets without boots on the ground. But he failed to mention the high civilian casualty rate from the August 29 drone strike, and he failed to mention that children had been killed.

'We struck ISIS-K remotely, days after they murdered 13 of our service members and dozen of innocent Afghans. And to ISIS-K, we are not done with you yet,' he said in his speech.

definitely not forthcoming with all of the information...but that’s not the same as lying

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:43 am i said this in the covid thread, but some of you need to look more broadly at he trump presidency and keep historical context in perspective

trump did, and continues to do, things that are so far outside if the norm for ANY president that it just seems silly to try and compare he and Biden. look no further than this past weekend for the evidence

i’d like to give at least some benefit of the doubt to proclamations that dems/progressives/liberals went too far in their condemnations, but when so many of his own party were also condemning on that same level it’s honestly difficult to say that “we” went too far

i ridiculed trump more so than any president, even dubya...but that’s because he was so much worse than any other president, imo...and i was no fan of dubya

that you somehow expect trump to be treated the same way dubya or his pops were is odd, and seems to be more indicative of a lack of perspective than and supposed mental gymnastics related to Biden

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:44 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:11 am

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:01 am

that says the Pentagon, not Biden

Days after the attack, President Joe Biden gave a speech in which he marked the withdrawal of American troops in Afghanistan by the August 31 deadline. He touted America's ability to strike terrorists and targets without boots on the ground. But he failed to mention the high civilian casualty rate from the August 29 drone strike, and he failed to mention that children had been killed.

'We struck ISIS-K remotely, days after they murdered 13 of our service members and dozen of innocent Afghans. And to ISIS-K, we are not done with you yet,' he said in his speech.

definitely not forthcoming with all of the information...but that’s not the same as lying

Stretch Armstrong



or Biden doesn't have control of his Pentagon??? zomg.

I understand your point....but, again the hypocrisy is strong.

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:45 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:43 am i said this in the covid thread, but some of you need to look more broadly at he trump presidency and keep historical context in perspective

trump did, and continues to do, things that are so far outside if the norm for ANY president that it just seems silly to try and compare he and Biden. look no further than this past weekend for the evidence

i’d like to give at least some benefit of the doubt to proclamations that dems/progressives/liberals went too far in their condemnations, but when so many of his own party were also condemning on that same level it’s honestly difficult to say that “we” went too far

i ridiculed trump more so than any president, even dubya...but that’s because he was so much worse than any other president, imo...and i was no fan of dubya

that you somehow expect trump to be treated the same way dubya or his pops were is odd, and seems to be more indicative of a lack of perspective than and supposed mental gymnastics related to Biden

I'm not asking anyone to treat Trump better. he earned his ridicule. But, just because he is following a terrible president doesn't give Biden a pass, he is treated as a golden boy around here and its silly. he has benefited more from the Trump presidency debacle more than anything he has done of his own merit.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:36 amdefinitions

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:50 am the two of you seem to want everyone firing off a dozen posts saying the same thing over and over and over again...

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:23 pm you keep falsely saying people are silent

you do you...just don’t expect anyone to take you seriously

TDub wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:05 pm Trump broke more than just the republicans.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:28 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:23 pm you keep falsely saying people are silent

you do you...just don’t expect anyone to take you seriously

Multiple people have praised Biden’s handling of Afghanistan in this thread.

That's batshit crazy.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:25 pm just went back through the first 10 pages...zero praise thus far

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:28 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:25 pm just went back through the first 10 pages...zero praise thus far

17 to go. we eagerly await your findings.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:34 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:28 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:25 pm just went back through the first 10 pages...zero praise thus far

17 to go. we eagerly await your findings.

hold your breath...i’ll let you know when i’m finished

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:48 pm "Hats off to Biden"