Kansas Crimson

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:40 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:37 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:29 pm
and yet Americans use gas for a whole slew of things other than work and school. idiot.

And, again, I ask, why the insult? My use of ingrate was jocular. I doubt your use of idiot was the same. Does it really add anything to the discussion? Serious question.

make a dumb statement (which you did), suffer the consequences

The consequences being you acting shamefully? I guess you can at least take solace in the fact that you are not alone in that.

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:36 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:03 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:36 pm

I'm old enough to remember when people who considered themselves "conservative" preached "personal responsibility" and didn't spend their time blaming the world and someone else for their personal economic situation.

So, you’re conceding that using core inflation numbers and trying to play them off to the public as real inflation numbers is deceptive, then. Thanks. I agree.

If the Fed had only begun using their current indicators after 2020 when Biden came to office, you'd have a point.

It didn't,
so you don't.

I "concede", nothing.

The point remains valid. Your boy - or whoever his puppet master is- is trotting out numbers that they know to be inaccurate as a way of reassuring the people they supposedly are looking out for that the economic suffering they are experiencing is all in their heads.

But, when your party does it, it’s warranted, right? SMH.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:42 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:36 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:03 pm

So, you’re conceding that using core inflation numbers and trying to play them off to the public as real inflation numbers is deceptive, then. Thanks. I agree.

If the Fed had only begun using their current indicators after 2020 when Biden came to office, you'd have a point.

It didn't,
so you don't.

I "concede", nothing.

The point remains valid. Your boy - or whoever his puppet master is- is trotting out numbers that they know to be inaccurate as a way of reassuring the people they supposedly are looking out for that the economic suffering they are experiencing is all in their heads.

But, when your party does it, it’s warranted, right? SMH.

In that case, post the "real" numbers. We'll wait.....

13.5 million new jobs.

Unemployment below 4% for the longest stretch in 50 years.

Highest share of working-age Americans with jobs in 20 years.

It’s called Bidenomics.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:38 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:40 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:37 pm

And, again, I ask, why the insult? My use of ingrate was jocular. I doubt your use of idiot was the same. Does it really add anything to the discussion? Serious question.

make a dumb statement (which you did), suffer the consequences

The consequences being you acting shamefully? I guess you can at least take solace in the fact that you are not alone in that.

doubling down, always a good look

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:06 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:38 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:40 pm
make a dumb statement (which you did), suffer the consequences

The consequences being you acting shamefully? I guess you can at least take solace in the fact that you are not alone in that.

doubling down, always a good look

Non-sequitur response to avoid owning your behavior. Not a good look, but one I have come to expect.

lol, indeed.

again, post dumb stuff and get called dumb (or an idiot, imbecile, etc)

it’s not that hard

this is me owning calling you an idiot. i don’t give two shits what you think that says about me

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:57 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:33 pm the American public continues to show that it is more than willing to pay exorbitant fuel prices

reduce the demand and gas prices will drop (followed by so very many other prices tied to transport costs)

that’s some pretty basic supply/demand stuff

Today In: But, Biden!

According to the law of supply and demand, it makes perfect sense to expect that cutting demand should increase the supply and the result would be the price of gasoline would go down. (And relatively speaking, it likely would, a little/some.)

By that same logic, increasing the supply should result in lower gas prices. If only it were so...

Although U.S. domestic oil production more than doubled since 2008, the price of oil continues to be set on a global market, which is vulnerable to the disruption of foreign petrostate dictators. After Russia invaded Ukraine the average price of a gallon of gasoline jumped 50 cents in just two weeks.

Sept. 5, 2023: Oil prices surge after Saudi Arabia and Russia extend production cuts

Oil prices hit a new high for the year so far after Saudi Arabia and Russia — the world’s biggest crude exporters — said they would extend output cuts by at least another three months.

Brent crude, the global benchmark, gained 1.8% to trade above $90 a barrel, while West Texas Intermediate (WTI), the US benchmark, rose by a similar margin to $87 a barrel.

The moves by Saudi Arabia and Russia reinforce efforts by the alliance known as OPEC+ — which includes members of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and other producers — to support oil prices by agreeing to deep and prolonged production cuts.

An official source from the Saudi Ministry of Energy told state-run news agency SPA that the kingdom would extend its production cut of 1 million barrels per day until the end of December. The decision would be “reviewed monthly to consider deepening the cut or increasing production,” the source added.

The Saudi production cut — which has been in place since July — is the biggest in years and has depressed the kingdom’s output to nine million barrels per day. The cut is in addition to a reduction previously announced by Riyadh in April 2023, which extends until the end of December 2024.

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gOnNa MaKe SaUdI a PaRiAh StAtE!

So...we gonna talk about the Biden administration denying Secret Service protection to a guy whose dad and uncle were assassinated and at whose rally last week an armed man was arrested?

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:42 am So...we gonna talk about the Biden administration denying Secret Service protection to a guy whose dad and uncle were assassinated and at whose rally last week an armed man was arrested?

Sure, let’s talk about it.

Do you think the fact of assassinations a literal lifetime ago justifies the spend (and human resource diversion) now? Particularly where we’re talking about a joke candidate who is choosing to put himself in the spotlight, and to turn up the heat by saying crazy things?

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:52 am

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:42 am So...we gonna talk about the Biden administration denying Secret Service protection to a guy whose dad and uncle were assassinated and at whose rally last week an armed man was arrested?

Sure, let’s talk about it.

Do you think the fact of assassinations a literal lifetime ago justifies the spend (and human resource diversion) now? Particularly where we’re talking about a joke candidate who is choosing to put himself in the spotlight, and to turn up the heat by saying crazy things?

Yes.

I think that people -- crazy as they are -- would see it as an especially fitting challenge to get the next generation of Kennedys too.

The expense -- in monetary and personnel terms -- is negligible.

I also think the denial makes Biden look petty (even though the decision almost certainly has nothing to do with him. Such is politics....)

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:00 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:52 am

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:42 am So...we gonna talk about the Biden administration denying Secret Service protection to a guy whose dad and uncle were assassinated and at whose rally last week an armed man was arrested?

Sure, let’s talk about it.

Do you think the fact of assassinations a literal lifetime ago justifies the spend (and human resource diversion) now? Particularly where we’re talking about a joke candidate who is choosing to put himself in the spotlight, and to turn up the heat by saying crazy things?

Yes.

I think that people -- crazy as they are -- would see it as an especially fitting challenge to get the next generation of Kennedys too.

The expense -- in monetary and personnel terms -- is negligible.

I also think the denial makes Biden look petty (even though the decision almost certainly has nothing to do with him. Such is politics....)

This is clearly anecdotal, but - I'm good friends with a US Marshal. He would not agree that the personnel expense (non-monetary) is negligible. There is tremendous strain on numbers.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:25 am again, post dumb stuff and get called dumb (or an idiot, imbecile, etc)

it’s not that hard

this is me owning calling you an idiot. i don’t give two shits what you think that says about me

It's not about what I think. It's about the reality of what your behavior objectively says about you. Most people would be ashamed, but you do you.

one of us gets along with most everyone here…the other, not so much

but sure, i’m the one that needs to do some soul searching

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:00 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:52 am

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:42 am So...we gonna talk about the Biden administration denying Secret Service protection to a guy whose dad and uncle were assassinated and at whose rally last week an armed man was arrested?

Sure, let’s talk about it.

Do you think the fact of assassinations a literal lifetime ago justifies the spend (and human resource diversion) now? Particularly where we’re talking about a joke candidate who is choosing to put himself in the spotlight, and to turn up the heat by saying crazy things?

Yes.

I think that people -- crazy as they are -- would see it as an especially fitting challenge to get the next generation of Kennedys too.

The expense -- in monetary and personnel terms -- is negligible.

I also think the denial makes Biden look petty (even though the decision almost certainly has nothing to do with him. Such is politics....)

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/28/politics ... index.html

"Facts First: Kennedy’s suggestion that he is being treated differently than every other presidential candidate since 1968 is baseless. In reality, the vast majority of candidates in modern presidential primaries never receive Secret Service protection because they are not deemed “major” candidates – and it would be nearly unprecedented for even a major candidate to receive protection this early in a campaign if they did not already have it on account of currently or previously serving in the White House. A CNN review of presidential campaigns dating back to 1980 found that only then-Senator Barack Obama, who faced unique threats as a Black man with a realistic chance to become president, was granted Secret Service protection as early in a campaign as Kennedy is seeking it.

“We’re too far out from the election,” and Kennedy “just doesn’t meet the criteria,” said Jonathan Wackrow, a CNN law enforcement analyst and former Secret Service agent. “He’s not a major presidential candidate. You can make as many requests as you want; unless you meet that criteria that have been set forth, it’s just not warranted.”"

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that they make an exception for RFK Jr.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:07 am one of us gets along with most everyone here…the other, not so much

but sure, i’m the one that needs to do some soul searching

We all know how small this board is... have you considered there are a small group of like 5 of you that are like minded and so insufferable that most people just say fuck it and find a different board to post on?

Most of us want to get along. But you (you know who you are) are such dickheads to anyone that doesn't agree with your opinions (yes politics is very nuanced and opinionated) that a lot of posters just quit posting on here cause it ain't worth it half the time

Impossible to have an actual discussion with a few of you

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:18 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:07 am one of us gets along with most everyone here…the other, not so much

but sure, i’m the one that needs to do some soul searching

We all know how small this board is... have you considered there are a small group of like 5 of you that are like minded and so insufferable that most people just say fuck it and find a different board to post on?

Most of us want to get along. But you (you know who you are) are such dickheads to anyone that doesn't agree with your opinions (yes politics is very nuanced and opinionated) that a lot of posters just quit posting on here cause it ain't worth it half the time

Impossible to have an actual discussion with a few of you

Because you would first have to stumble on a fact to discuss.

so, randy, when are you leaving?

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:18 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:07 am one of us gets along with most everyone here…the other, not so much

but sure, i’m the one that needs to do some soul searching

We all know how small this board is... have you considered there are a small group of like 5 of you that are like minded and so insufferable that most people just say fuck it and find a different board to post on?

Most of us want to get along. But you (you know who you are) are such dickheads to anyone that doesn't agree with your opinions (yes politics is very nuanced and opinionated) that a lot of posters just quit posting on here cause it ain't worth it half the time

Impossible to have an actual discussion with a few of you

Is this irony?
Where's PhD?

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:11 pm I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that they make an exception for RFK Jr.

^^^

Same.