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Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:51 pm
by BiggDick
I didn't mean Trump blaming Ukraine as evidence of the Putin connection. I think the Ukraine-blaming is a fairly recent development, and just not much to it either way.

Rather, I thought there was some narrative suggested that Trump's rhetoric to end the Ukraine war in 24 hours because it's to the benefit of, and perhaps even due to the influence of, Putin.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:10 pm
by TDub
he wants to end the war by forcing Ukraine to cede lands to Putin. That has always been his proposal.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:11 pm
by TDub
why am I doing this. its inane. I'm done now.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:13 pm
by Sparko
Ousdahl has lost the argument with his voting stance. Whatever happens now is actually his fault.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:43 pm
by BiggDick
the vote-shaming is just so lame...especially since I'm prob the only one here who did NOT vote for a candidate with a pro-war platform.

Sparko trying to blame me for whatever happens now might be even sillier than Trump trying to blame Zelensky.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:49 pm
by BiggDick
TDub wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:10 pm he wants to end the war by forcing Ukraine to cede lands to Putin. That has always been his proposal.
exactly!

but, now that he's back in the big chair, he's not.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:02 pm
by jfish26
Don’t lose hope, there’s time.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:09 pm
by BiggDick
if there's a silver lining, it's that maybe there's NOT as much to the Putin-influencing-Trump narrative as we thought.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:11 pm
by dolomite
jfish26 wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:02 pm Don’t lose hope, there’s time.
Well you know what I say about “hope”.

How long will the whining go on?

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:13 pm
by jfish26
BiggDick wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:09 pm if there's a silver lining, it's that maybe there's NOT as much to the Putin-influencing-Trump narrative as we thought.
That’s a fine thing to wish for.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:31 pm
by defixione
dolomite wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:11 pm
jfish26 wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:02 pm Don’t lose hope, there’s time.
Well you know what I say about “hope”.

How long will the whining go on?
Define 'whining.'

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:34 pm
by TDub
BiggDick wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:49 pm
TDub wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:10 pm he wants to end the war by forcing Ukraine to cede lands to Putin. That has always been his proposal.
exactly!

but, now that he's back in the big chair, he's not.
youre a fisherman...you ought to know when you've swallowed the bait. Yet...here we are

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:47 pm
by Shirley

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:52 pm
by twocoach
BiggDick wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:49 pm
TDub wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:10 pm he wants to end the war by forcing Ukraine to cede lands to Putin. That has always been his proposal.
exactly!

but, now that he's back in the big chair, he's not.
You meant "hasn't yet".

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:20 pm
by TDub
welp there it is...supposedly US has now suspended all foreign aid except for Israel....and....Egypt?

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:21 pm
by TDub
BiggDick wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:49 pm
TDub wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:10 pm he wants to end the war by forcing Ukraine to cede lands to Putin. That has always been his proposal.
exactly!

but, now that he's back in the big chair, he's not.
this will age well...

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:39 pm
by twocoach
TDub wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:20 pm welp there it is...supposedly US has now suspended all foreign aid except for Israel....and....Egypt?
Yep. Nice knowing you, Ukraine.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/24/politics ... index.html

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:42 am
by BiggDick
In other news…

CNN

At least 22 people were killed and 124 others injured by Israeli forces in southern Lebanon, the Lebanese Health Ministry said, as residents of villages near the border defied orders by Israel’s military not to return to their homes.

The deaths come as a deadline expired Sunday for Israel to withdraw forces from the area, as part of a ceasefire agreement that ended months of conflict with Hezbollah.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/01/26/midd ... srael-intl

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:11 pm
by Overlander
BiggDick wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:49 pm
TDub wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:10 pm he wants to end the war by forcing Ukraine to cede lands to Putin. That has always been his proposal.
exactly!

but, now that he's back in the big chair, he's not.
And you SERIOUSLY cannot see the issue with you making this statement.

The have a phrase for it, “useful _____”

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:28 pm
by BiggDick
useful what, huh?

SERIOUSLY, what's your issue with this one?