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Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:29 am
by InfiniteJ
I would rather have McCullar back than almost any of the players currently in the portal...especially the guys at his same position.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:46 am
by ousdahl
If we’re in a position we can afford to have sophomore Udeh off the bench, that means an awful talented 5 came in.

And also means an awful lot of lobs against other team’s 2nd units

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:47 am
by randylahey
Mjl wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:24 am
UnholyLivingDead wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:10 am
InfiniteJ wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:50 am Dickinson seems like a perfect fit for Bill and staff...if they get him, McCullar comes back, and they get a shooter out of the portal, look out.
Going into the offseason, my wishlist was a big, a couple of shooters, and a PG. Getting McCullar back wouldn't change much of that in my mind. But with our combo guard recruits coming in, it probably lessons the need for a backup ballhandler for Harris.
Yeah, Jackson will back up Juan and play next to him too some.

Ideal to me would get Dickinson and Cryer and a 6'5"-6'7" 3-and-D wing.

Juan
Cryer
3nD wing
KJ
Dickinson

Jackson and Udeh main players off the bench.

That's a top three team.
Yes. Mccullar. The 3 and d guy is mccullar, there isn't a better 3 available in the portal

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:11 pm
by UnholyLivingDead
Mjl wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:24 am
UnholyLivingDead wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:10 am
InfiniteJ wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:50 am Dickinson seems like a perfect fit for Bill and staff...if they get him, McCullar comes back, and they get a shooter out of the portal, look out.
Going into the offseason, my wishlist was a big, a couple of shooters, and a PG. Getting McCullar back wouldn't change much of that in my mind. But with our combo guard recruits coming in, it probably lessons the need for a backup ballhandler for Harris.
Yeah, Jackson will back up Juan and play next to him too some.

Ideal to me would get Dickinson and Cryer and a 6'5"-6'7" 3-and-D wing.

Juan
Cryer
3nD wing
KJ
Dickinson

Jackson and Udeh main players off the bench.

That's a top three team.
I like it. There are some wings in the portal that would fit there, assuming McCullar isn't back which I personally don't see happening but Bill left the door open yesterday. Hakim Hart from Maryland or Harrison Ingram from Stanford come to mind. Spencer Jones from Stanford is another but it doesn't sound like he's entered the portal just yet. Another guard would still be nice to have too with the likes of Primo and Timberlake visiting Lawrence.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:34 pm
by twocoach
randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:50 am Id hate to lose zuby if we get Dickinson. Wonder how patient and committed to KU he would be. Best case scenario is getting Dickinson and zuby being content with a redshirt
Zuby doesn't strike me as anything more than a career backup, which is not something I worry about losing. He is very replaceable.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:39 pm
by randylahey
twocoach wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:34 pm
randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:50 am Id hate to lose zuby if we get Dickinson. Wonder how patient and committed to KU he would be. Best case scenario is getting Dickinson and zuby being content with a redshirt
Zuby doesn't strike me as anything more than a career backup, which is not something I worry about losing. He is very replaceable.
Hes gonna be a beast by junior/senior year. Hes replaceable sure, but I'd like to keep him around. Those program guys are a big deal still. You would've said the same thing about dajuan harris after his freshman year

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:45 pm
by randylahey
Twocoach maybe a good comparison for zuby would he Darnell Jackson. Similar prospect coming out of high school, similar skillets. After Darnell's freshman season you probably didn't care if he transfered either. But he stuck around and look how that played out. Those 4 year role players are still important

I'm high on zuby, I'd like to keep him

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:48 pm
by ousdahl
Similar skillets…you mean like beef and potato or something?

As for Zuby, I think a lot depends on whether he shows any progress next year.

But yea, he might be career backup, in which case his comparison is prob Landen Lucas. That dude would have never been starting, but for injuries, and the F the NCAA thread.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:57 pm
by pdub
Zuby is more Jamari Traylor than Landen Lucas.
Zuby is athletic.
Lucas was not.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:10 pm
by Mjl
I think Zuby is going to be awesome if he sticks around. Strong, athletic, nose for the ball, pretty quick.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:57 pm
by randylahey
If zuby is a career back up, it means we have a stacked front court his whole career here. Hes going to be a damn good college player eventually. And hopefully at ku. If he transfers, it won't be to be a back up somewhere else

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:18 pm
by AlOerter
I think the ceiling is high for Zuby. He just needs a little maturity and a summer with Nijem cracking the whip.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:35 pm
by PhDhawk
Yes, let's develop our players. He's gonna be good.

Worried we have too much of a grass us greener mentality.

We had almost the same roster in 22 as in 21...the difference was a year of maturity for our players.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:40 pm
by ousdahl
Well that, and we went out and found ourself a guard who could just go get it.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:55 pm
by PhDhawk
Remy played 21 mpg. He was great, and a huge addition. But he was 6th or 7th on that team. The offseason improvement of Och and Braun, and the late season emergence of Mac and Harris were bigger factors to that team's success.

Keep adding pieces, but players improve, there's value in continuity, chemistry, and system familiarity.

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:08 pm
by ramjet
PhDhawk wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:55 pm Remy played 21 mpg. He was great, and a huge addition. But he was 6th or 7th on that team. The offseason improvement of Och and Braun, and the late season emergence of Mac and Harris were bigger factors to that team's success.

Keep adding pieces, but players improve, there's value in continuity, chemistry, and system familiarity.
agree, as Mac came up big in the tourney run, so did Remy as the change of pace spark plug. Especially as the team climbed the ladder board

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:32 pm
by TDub
PhDhawk wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:55 pm Remy played 21 mpg. He was great, and a huge addition. But he was 6th or 7th on that team. The offseason improvement of Och and Braun, and the late season emergence of Mac and Harris were bigger factors to that team's success.

Keep adding pieces, but players improve, there's value in continuity, chemistry, and system familiarity.
yes to all of this

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:17 am
by pdub
TDub wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:32 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:55 pm Remy played 21 mpg. He was great, and a huge addition. But he was 6th or 7th on that team. The offseason improvement of Och and Braun, and the late season emergence of Mac and Harris were bigger factors to that team's success.

Keep adding pieces, but players improve, there's value in continuity, chemistry, and system familiarity.
yes to all of this
And yes to that.

( cue ousdahl mentioning Remys Creighton game for the 15th time )

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:22 am
by KUTradition
KM to declare, but maintain eligibility

Re: 2023-2024 lineup

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:33 am
by AlOerter
PhDhawk wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:55 pm Remy played 21 mpg. He was great, and a huge addition. But he was 6th or 7th on that team. The offseason improvement of Och and Braun, and the late season emergence of Mac and Harris were bigger factors to that team's success.

Keep adding pieces, but players improve, there's value in continuity, chemistry, and system familiarity.
This is really what we lacked this season. We didn't have the quality 6th or 7th that Remy was. Another upper-classman with skills and savvy. They are out there, but it's a rare freshman who can provide that and it's a crap-shoot on whether one of yours will be that. Gradey was one of those rare ones but we didn't have enough threats to put around him to ease defensive focus off him.

As a side note, Sanogo showed once again the value of having an offensively skilled big who can also protect the rim on D.