Kansas Crimson

TDub wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:05 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:02 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:55 am

I know you dont agree with these particular protesters (fair take) but keep in mind there are other protests and uprisings that have provided you with the ability to live your life the way you do and want to.

oh yeah. I'm all for a merited civil protest, and appreciate the historical challenges that have ultimately resulted in the freedoms we have today.

but, in the grand scheme of protests, it's just not real high on my merit scale to call the cart guy at Costco a pussy.

Who determines if its a merited protest?

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:56 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:08 am that's a good question!

if we have some critical mass of Mericans who rally behind ol' "no shirt no mask no problem, cuz I GOT MAH FREEDOM!," then let's talk merit.

but til then, meh.

What is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right. -Albert Einstein

I think that the voice of people who are facing economic hardships NEEDS to be heard, I just wish they did it by some other method besides mass gatherings.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 12:34 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:56 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:08 am that's a good question!

if we have some critical mass of Mericans who rally behind ol' "no shirt no mask no problem, cuz I GOT MAH FREEDOM!," then let's talk merit.

but til then, meh.

What is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right. -Albert Einstein

I think that the voice of people who are facing economic hardships NEEDS to be heard, I just wish they did it by some other method besides mass gatherings.

They could take a knee.

How would they be heard otherwise?

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 12:34 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:56 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:08 am that's a good question!

if we have some critical mass of Mericans who rally behind ol' "no shirt no mask no problem, cuz I GOT MAH FREEDOM!," then let's talk merit.

but til then, meh.

What is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right. -Albert Einstein

I think that the voice of people who are facing economic hardships NEEDS to be heard, I just wish they did it by some other method besides mass gatherings.

How would they be heard otherwise?

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 12:44 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 12:34 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:56 am


I think that the voice of people who are facing economic hardships NEEDS to be heard, I just wish they did it by some other method besides mass gatherings.

How would they be heard otherwise?

By doing any form of protest other than gathering in a crowd that doesn't follow social distancing.

They could write a letter to the editor in their local paper.

They could gather in a large open public area and maintain distance.

They could drive around in cars with a speaker a la blues brothers.

The options are limitless. Get creative.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:02 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 12:44 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 12:34 pm

How would they be heard otherwise?

By doing any form of protest other than gathering in a crowd that doesn't follow social distancing.

They could write a letter to the editor in their local paper.

They could gather in a large open public area and maintain distance.

They could drive around in cars with a speaker a la blues brothers.

The options are limitless. Get creative.

So, civil disobedience is an acceptable format for protest as long as you agree with the cause?

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:24 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:02 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 12:44 pm
By doing any form of protest other than gathering in a crowd that doesn't follow social distancing.

They could write a letter to the editor in their local paper.

They could gather in a large open public area and maintain distance.

They could drive around in cars with a speaker a la blues brothers.

The options are limitless. Get creative.

So, civil disobedience is an acceptable format for protest as long as you agree with the cause?

No. Civil disobedience ceases to be civil when it unnecessarily increases the likelihood of spreading an infectious disease that is the causative agent if an ongoing global pandemic.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:05 pm that we don't need masks or social distancing so to protest they don't wear masks or social distance.

So for them, it is the appropriate protest.

chiknbut wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:27 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:24 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:02 pm

So, civil disobedience is an acceptable format for protest as long as you agree with the cause?

No. Civil disobedience ceases to be civil when it unnecessarily increases the likelihood of spreading an infectious disease that is the causative agent if an ongoing global pandemic.

Don't you get tired of explaining obvious things to people who just want attention?

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:28 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:05 pm that we don't need masks or social distancing so to protest they don't wear masks or social distance.

So for them, it is the appropriate protest.

Well, then that's just dumb.

That's like stabbing each other to protest that we shouldn't be stabbing each other.

I wouldn't support that protest either.

That the virus exists, is deadly, is spread person to person through aerosols are not philosophical opinions, are factual and provable.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:45 pm So, what do they chant at these protests?

"We're getting exactly what we want it just isn't happening fast enough!"?

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:52 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:45 pm So, what do they chant at these protests?

"We're getting exactly what we want it just isn't happening fast enough!"?

Not everyone is getting what they want:

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 2:05 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:52 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 1:45 pm So, what do they chant at these protests?

"We're getting exactly what we want it just isn't happening fast enough!"?

Not everyone is getting what they want:

Ok. Protest. Plenty of room on that sidewalk to spread out. They're protesting guidelines? If it's a sport that's supposed to start right now, it should probably be cancelled.

And this may be an unpopular opinion on here. But starting up youth sports again is not at the top of my priorities list. If we can't have kids gather together for school yet, I don't see how you can make an argument that they should gather for team sports.