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Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:14 pm
by AlOerter
Intrigued to see what kind of banging Curry can do when physicality is needed.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:28 pm
by sdoyel
Don’t ever count on a JUCO guy.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:31 pm
by Mjl
I'm optimistic, but would feel a lot better if we could get Marcus back. I'm not as concerned about the Ochai loss, he basically shot 3s (very streakily) and played solid defense. The defense of Garrett and his ability to drive are big losses.
We have good pieces though. Yesufu looked like the best player on the court every game that he started, including the USC game (yes, Mobley is a better pro prospect, but that's not the metric). He can take Ochai's scoring load, but it would be best to have him out there with Harris so we can have two guys that are super quick.
And then Jalen and Dave can score and rebound. Braun needs to improve his shooting, but he can get a lot of really good looks given he's out there with those other guys.
Martin and Thompson are really good scorers off the bench and give a different look.
If we don't add anyone and lose both Ochai and Marcus, I think those seven would get the bulk of the minutes, and I think that's a top ten team.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:32 pm
by ousdahl
sdoyel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:28 pm
Don’t ever count on a JUCO guy.
While this is generally gonna be true, I can at least think of a good 40 pounds of reasons why this dude could be an upgrade over our current depth at the 5
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:33 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I don't understand on counting on anything from Martin.
Not saying it can't happen, but to expect it is a level of optimism I could never get to.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:40 pm
by ousdahl
the question you also have to ask, though, is how much faith you got in Make-A-Wish?
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:46 pm
by Mjl
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:33 pm
I don't understand on counting on anything from Martin.
Not saying it can't happen, but to expect it is a level of optimism I could never get to.
We assume Dave plays what, 29 mpg? You thinking Clemence or Curry or, God forbid, Lightfoot gets those other minutes? Or that Martin gets them but doesn't do much?
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:48 pm
by sdoyel
I’m still baffled by the folks who don’t think we need Bishop.
Totally bizarre.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:49 pm
by AlOerter
Concerning Martin - A true 3 stroke can cover a multitude of sins.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:53 pm
by NewtonHawk11
sdoyel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:48 pm
I’m still baffled by the folks who don’t think we need Bishop.
Totally bizarre.
What position does he play? He's a perfect small-ball 5 man. But big men are kind of loaded now with Mac, Curry, Martin and even Lightfoot.
If he plays the 4, you have to shoot it well. 2 post hi-low offense is not the play.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:57 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Mjl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:46 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:33 pm
I don't understand on counting on anything from Martin.
Not saying it can't happen, but to expect it is a level of optimism I could never get to.
We assume Dave plays what, 29 mpg? You thinking Clemence or Curry or, God forbid, Lightfoot gets those other minutes? Or that Martin gets them but doesn't do much?
I think the minutes split between Martin and Lightfoot as I would think a one year "grad" transfer gets the nod over a juco guy. I hope Clemence is good enough to get in there, though.
I just don't think we can count on Martin doing much, but, again, not saying it can't happen!
I sincerely believe that if Mitch Lightfoot played 4 years of D2 basketball, that he would be one of the 10 best players in D2, if not better. He was around the 130th ranked recruit in the entire country, a full 6'8" and in great shape. Martin is one of the 5 best players in D2, so that's kind of what we are dealing with for reference.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:38 pm
by Deleted User 863
SDS still lives in Lawrence. Maybe he's available?
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:45 pm
by twocoach
sdoyel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:48 pm
I’m still baffled by the folks who don’t think we need Bishop.
Totally bizarre.
I'd rather have Garrison Brooks. Four year Carolina starter just hit the portal. Yes, please.
https://247sports.com/college/north-car ... 162874832/
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:09 pm
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:38 pm
SDS still lives in Lawrence. Maybe he's available?
POTD
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:48 pm
by NDballer13
sdoyel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:48 pm
I’m still baffled by the folks who don’t think we need Bishop.
Totally bizarre.
Undersized 5 with no jumpshot and even less of a back to the basket game. What does he provide that Lightfoot doesn't?
Just because he was a starter on a top 20 team doesn't make him a must have.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:50 am
by jfish26
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:38 pm
SDS still lives in Lawrence. Maybe he's available?
Kinda wish he didn’t.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:07 am
by NewtonHawk11
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:48 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:48 pm
I’m still baffled by the folks who don’t think we need Bishop.
Totally bizarre.
Undersized 5 with no jumpshot and even less of a back to the basket game. What does he provide that Lightfoot doesn't?
Just because he was a starter on a top 20 team doesn't make him a must have.
*Michael Scott THANK YOU gif*
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:21 am
by CrimsonNBlue
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:07 am
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:48 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:48 pm
I’m still baffled by the folks who don’t think we need Bishop.
Totally bizarre.
Undersized 5 with no jumpshot and even less of a back to the basket game. What does he provide that Lightfoot doesn't?
Just because he was a starter on a top 20 team doesn't make him a must have.
*Michael Scott THANK YOU gif*
By the way you describe him, Bishop seems like a player from a different era. I don't think the Jamari comparisons are that far off.
No thanks.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:38 am
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:21 am
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:07 am
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:48 pm
Undersized 5 with no jumpshot and even less of a back to the basket game. What does he provide that Lightfoot doesn't?
Just because he was a starter on a top 20 team doesn't make him a must have.
*Michael Scott THANK YOU gif*
By the way you describe him, Bishop seems like a player from a different era. I don't think the Jamari comparisons are that far off.
No thanks.
I just don’t think he brings anything you don’t already have.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:04 pm
by NewtonHawk11
The only thing he brings is an above the rim attitude. He dunks everything. This team needs shooters over anything else right now.