Kansas Crimson

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:50 am

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:46 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:31 pm

He was successful, he didn’t need to read a teleprompter to function. and he could recognize and articulate the true problem and the solutions to it. Harris is none of those things.

Successful, I argue he wasn’t particularly.
A dozen failed businesses doesn’t make me think of him as a business success. The bulk of his “success” being a reality TV star.

Do you not notice that, while bragging that he doesn’t need a teleprompter…is literally reading that OFF of a teleprompter?

I will agree that Trump (more credit to Steve Bannon than Trump), did tap into the things that “ Joe Lunch Box” considered the biggest obstructions to them living the lives that their parents did. They found what JLB felt was holding him back (jobs going overseas, NAFTA, etc) and demonized the folks that
were easiest to demonize (Mexicans, politicians) for political talking points.

It was a powerful and well run campaign.
It certainly didn’t hurt that Hillary epitomized EVERYTHING that the Trump supporters felt was driving that train.

The question that I pose is, what did Trump actually DO to help those folks? What tangible (not emotional) calling card was left to say the Trump made his mark on making the US a better place for those folks that he made so many promises to?

Please don’t say securing the border, he didn’t.

It was a helluva lot better - economy and border - until the Plandemic was launched to cripple it. Had he been given eight unobstructed years, we’d be in tall cotton right now.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:40 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:38 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:22 am

Yup, me, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, RFK, Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Alex Jones, Mel Gibson, Tim Pool . . . visually impaired and loosers, every one.

This isn’t helping.

All more successful individuals than anyone here.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:40 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:38 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:22 am

Yup, me, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, RFK, Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Alex Jones, Mel Gibson, Tim Pool . . . visually impaired and loosers, every one.

This isn’t helping.

All more successful individuals than anyone here.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:59 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:40 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:38 am

This isn’t helping.

All more successful individuals than anyone here.

And?

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:56 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:40 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:38 am

This isn’t helping.

All more successful individuals than anyone here.

Help me out. What do you feel makes them more successful than "anyone" on here?
I'm asking for "dum" Kamala Harris' sake more than mine.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:11 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:59 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:40 am

All more successful individuals than anyone here.

And?

I would seriously argue that you (fish) are more "successful" than at least one of the individuals JK listed.

* Edit
WAIT! TIME OUT! Did JK actually say he is more "successful" than anyone on here?
HOLY FRICKING POOP!
Time for me to step away from the politics bored for a while. May check back later today.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:56 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:40 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:31 pm

He was successful, he didn’t need to read a teleprompter to function. and he could recognize and articulate the true problem and the solutions to it. Harris is none of those things.

No one needs a teleprompter to stand up and ramble about nonsense looking like a teetering, deranged, old, rich, smutty man in poopy diapers.

Harris is behaving like a professional applying for an important job. She behaves like someone who will take that job more seriously than Trump has taken the last 4 years of his life. Trump is more disgusting now than when he left office. Starting to be held accountable for his illegal behavior has made him a dirtier fighter.

Trump is only going to get more over the top in the next two weeks. He is going to be really disgusting, mark my words.

What you and your ilk see as disgusting, many of us see as standing up for Americans. We’re cheering him on because, instead of saying “It’s all in your head,” he’s saying “You deserve better, and I’m going to bat for you.” It’s not hard to understand.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:22 am

Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:10 pm There is none so blind as Psych

Yup, me, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, RFK, Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Alex Jones, Mel Gibson, Tim Pool . . . visually impaired and loosers, every one.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:40 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:56 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:40 pm
No one needs a teleprompter to stand up and ramble about nonsense looking like a teetering, deranged, old, rich, smutty man in poopy diapers.

Harris is behaving like a professional applying for an important job. She behaves like someone who will take that job more seriously than Trump has taken the last 4 years of his life. Trump is more disgusting now than when he left office. Starting to be held accountable for his illegal behavior has made him a dirtier fighter.

Trump is only going to get more over the top in the next two weeks. He is going to be really disgusting, mark my words.

What you and your ilk see as disgusting, many of us see as standing up for Americans. We’re cheering him on because, instead of saying “It’s all in your head,” he’s saying “You deserve better, and I’m going to bat for you.” It’s not hard to understand.

You see what you want him to be. I see what he did for every day Americans and what he says he will do, which is not much. His tariffs and tax plan do not do what he claims and if you're honest, you'd agree.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:42 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:22 am

Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:10 pm There is none so blind as Psych

Yup, me, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, RFK, Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Alex Jones, Mel Gibson, Tim Pool . . . visually impaired and loosers, every one.

Yup, all people who are either scumbags or looking to benefit from Trump thanks to tax breaks and cushy job appointments.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:43 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:40 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:56 pm

What you and your ilk see as disgusting, many of us see as standing up for Americans. We’re cheering him on because, instead of saying “It’s all in your head,” he’s saying “You deserve better, and I’m going to bat for you.” It’s not hard to understand.

You see what you want him to be. I see what he did for every day Americans and what he says he will do, which is not much. His tariffs and tax plan do not do what he claims and if you're honest, you'd agree.

It will force companies to build their factories here and employ Americans, which will, in turn, lead to prosperity and job security for Americans. Will it happen overnight? No. But it will be a damn sight better than throwing open the gates and turning us into the world’s garbage dump, as Brandon and Giggles have tried to do.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:16 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:56 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:40 am

All more successful individuals than anyone here.

Help me out. What do you feel makes them more successful than "anyone" on here?
I'm asking for "dum" Kamala Harris' sake more than mine.

They’re all financially successful. Is there another measure?

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:17 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:11 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:59 am

And?

I would seriously argue that you (fish) are more "successful" than at least one of the individuals JK listed.

* Edit
WAIT! TIME OUT! Did JK actually say he is more "successful" than anyone on here?
HOLY FRICKING POOP!
Time for me to step away from the politics bored for a while. May check back later today.

I didn’t say I was more successful than anyone here. Might want to re-read.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:01 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:17 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:11 am

I would seriously argue that you (fish) are more "successful" than at least one of the individuals JK listed.

* Edit
WAIT! TIME OUT! Did JK actually say he is more "successful" than anyone on here?
HOLY FRICKING POOP!
Time for me to step away from the politics bored for a while. May check back later today.

I didn’t say I was more successful than anyone here. Might want to re-read.

I Might want to re-read what?
You absolutely did say you are more successful that anyone on here!
YOUR exact words were......
"Yup, me, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, RFK, Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Alex Jones, Mel Gibson, Tim Pool . . . visually impaired and loosers, every one."
Followed by....
"All more successful individuals than anyone here".

So what part of "me" isn't/wasn't you?

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:47 am I’m still just not understanding the underlying assumption here. What exactly does the material success of the group you mentioned tell us about the candidate the group supports?