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Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:57 pm
by Mjl
If you think doing something and helping do something are just semantically different, I can't discuss this with you. Because they're just not, not at all. Claiming that to just be semantics is the kind of playing with language used by propagandists.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:01 pm
by ousdahl
so because helping to combat world hunger would only help, and not necessarily solve it entirely, then there's no point in even attempting to help?

asking again: should we give Musk the benefit of the doubt here?

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:18 pm
by Deleted User 863
That's what you got from all of that?

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:25 pm
by Mjl
ousdahl wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:01 pm so because helping to combat world hunger would only help, and not necessarily solve it entirely, then there's no point in even attempting to help?

asking again: should we give Musk the benefit of the doubt here?
Not at all what I said. I'm saying that if you want results, start with discussing costs/benefits honestly and accurately.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:48 pm
by zsn
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:23 pm up until elon musk bought tweeter. he was the greatest person since sliced bread. now that he owns tweeter, he bad.
Musk was, is and forever will be a horrible excuse for a human being. He made a lot of money by making a companion app for assisting payments with eBay purchases. He bought an existing startup with his newfound wealth. For the record, Tesla existed before Musk

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:04 pm
by ousdahl
I dunno if Musk's wealth was ever "newfound"

wasn't he born privileged into a family of apartheid emerald mine owners?

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:14 pm
by MICHHAWK
you dingbats were lining up to gargle his manhood while he was pioneering the ev. and taking the ev world by storm.

like i said a few days ago. liberals love you as long as you do what they say.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:26 pm
by ousdahl
Mjl wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:25 pm
ousdahl wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:01 pm so because helping to combat world hunger would only help, and not necessarily solve it entirely, then there's no point in even attempting to help?

asking again: should we give Musk the benefit of the doubt here?
Not at all what I said. I'm saying that if you want results, start with discussing costs/benefits honestly and accurately.
yea, I don't think he deserves the benefit of the doubt either.

if we really wanna discuss costs/benefits honestly and accurately...

I'm tempted to ask whether there might be costs or benefits to considering economic systems designed to actually provide basic human needs like food, weighed against the costs and benefits of doubling down on economic systems designed to hoard wealth for the individuals who are shameless enough to hoard it, but I don't really feel like going full Qusdahl today, and besides, this isn't even the pols bored.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:29 pm
by Deleted User 863
Jesus christ. Every single topic turns into that same ridiculous question.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:41 pm
by MICHHAWK
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:29 pm Jesus christ. Every single topic turns into that same ridiculous question.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:43 pm
by Mjl
Hunger is a bigger issue in Capitalist countries? Lol. Wow.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:53 pm
by ousdahl
right?!

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:54 pm
by ousdahl
in some fucked up roundabout way, this really might be the golden age of social media.

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Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:55 pm
by zsn
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:14 pm you dingbats were lining up to gargle his manhood while he was pioneering the ev. and taking the ev world by storm.

like i said a few days ago. liberals love you as long as you do what they say.
Your view of what liberals love(d) couldn’t be farther from the truth. Maybe the one liberal you know loves Musk. Most liberals are smart enough to know the difference between the product and the person behind the brand.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:06 pm
by MICHHAWK
liberals walk on water.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:14 pm
by defixione
At least you recognize that Jesus was a liberal.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:20 pm
by MICHHAWK
that can't be right. liberals don't believe in God.

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:22 pm
by ousdahl
was he, though?

If we may actually nitpick ideologies, while "liberalism" does value things like equality, it still very much espouses things like "free markets," and capitalism as the dominant economic system.

Put another way, liberals support equality but more so on social matters, cuz they're also prone to undermining that sense of equality on economic matters.

and I just don't Jesus would jive with that. In fact, Jesus very explicitly condemned the hoarding of wealth, as well as inequalities of both social and economic sorts.

in other words, Jesus was prob closer to being some kinda proto-commie.

Not that that should surprise anyone, though I suppose it still will...what next, you gonna act surprised to learn Jesus didn't have blond hair and blue eyes too?

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:29 pm
by KUTradition
mich conflating jesus and god is high-larious

Re: Facebook, Google, et al

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:42 pm
by ousdahl
Don’t forget the holy spirit too!

They’re all the same thing. But also 3 different things. It makes sense if you don’t think about it.

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