2020 offseason thread

[PhDhawk]

Yeah, what was MTSU thinking, "Hey we need a new OC. That recent up and comer who has since been exposed at Kansas is interested. Oh, but he's going to have to take unknown amounts of time off at unknown time points to take care of a dying relative."

"Perfect, let's hire him. And let's pay for his buy-out too."

[NewtonHawk11]

Here's my 3 guesses.

Emmitt Jones moves to OC. He's already earning $300K, more than Dearmon did and he was the passing game coordinator last year. Could slide right in and they not lose a beat, really. Would be more of a passing attack on offense because that is what he wants.

Ed Warinner comes here as OC/HCIW. I think that is the only way he comes to KU. With the assurance that he'll be the guy when Miles decides that he is done.

May pull what Oklahoma State did a few years ago and hire a D2 OC from an innovative and good offense and bring him in on a cheap salary and let the guy loose.. I think the guys name was Yurich..? Was a D2 OC for a couple of years and then went to Oklahoma State for like 6 years and then went to Ohio State and Texas and is now at Penn State as OC.

Like good coaches are out there, no matter the level. It's honestly true. There are so many good coaches at the D2 level that can easily be a really good P5 coach. I don't think KU should go this route, but it's interesting to say the least.

[NewtonHawk11]

Yeah, what was MTSU thinking, "Hey we need a new OC. That recent up and comer who has since been exposed at Kansas is interested. Oh, but he's going to have to take unknown amounts of time off at unknown time points to take care of a dying relative."

"Perfect, let's hire him. And let's pay for his buy-out too."

I'm not saying this line of thinking is wrong, but with how much everything has changed to online meetings and whatnot, it's more feasible than ever before.

[PhDhawk]

Here's my 3 guesses.

Emmitt Jones moves to OC. He's already earning $300K, more than Dearmon did and he was the passing game coordinator last year. Could slide right in and they not lose a beat, really. Would be more of a passing attack on offense because that is what he wants.
"not lose a beat"...can you say that about KU's offense. If there was a beat at all, we gotta change that rhythm anyway. But It think something like this is likely.

Ed Warinner comes here as OC/HCIW. I think that is the only way he comes to KU. With the assurance that he'll be the guy when Miles decides that he is done.
This seems like the best option...so we can be pretty sure it doesn't happen.


May pull what Oklahoma State did a few years ago and hire a D2 OC from an innovative and good offense and bring him in on a cheap salary and let the guy loose.. I think the guys name was Yurich..? Was a D2 OC for a couple of years and then went to Oklahoma State for like 6 years and then went to Ohio State and Texas and is now at Penn State as OC.
This seems out of character for Les...and if this is the route, I definitely don't see him "letting the guy loose"

Like good coaches are out there, no matter the level. It's honestly true. There are so many good coaches at the D2 level that can easily be a really good P5 coach. I don't think KU should go this route, but it's interesting to say the least.

I appreciate your optimism, as unfounded as it may be.

[NewtonHawk11]

I wouldn't call it optimism right now. This is probably the lowest I've been right now on KU football. But that's not to say that I don't like the way that Miles is building up the program. Because it is the right way. The long way, but the right way.

But 4th hire in 3 years is problematic. No matter the circumstances of why the previous OCs left.

Regarding Warinner, he seems to have a big time soft spot for KU. He's ALWAYS interested when something comes up.

[PhDhawk]

The issue with Warinner isn't his willingness to take the job, it's Miles willingness to hire him.

And regardless, Miles is gonna have to let someone loose or it's all pretty much a moot point.

[twocoach]

I wouldn't call it optimism right now. This is probably the lowest I've been right now on KU football. But that's not to say that I don't like the way that Miles is building up the program. Because it is the right way. The long way, but the right way.

But 4th hire in 3 years is problematic. No matter the circumstances of why the previous OCs left.

Regarding Warinner, he seems to have a big time soft spot for KU. He's ALWAYS interested when something comes up.

At what point does this mess prove out to be "the right way"?

[Cascadia]

I wouldn't call it optimism right now. This is probably the lowest I've been right now on KU football. But that's not to say that I don't like the way that Miles is building up the program. Because it is the right way. The long way, but the right way.

But 4th hire in 3 years is problematic. No matter the circumstances of why the previous OCs left.

Regarding Warinner, he seems to have a big time soft spot for KU. He's ALWAYS interested when something comes up.

At what point does this mess prove out to be "the right way"?

December 2022

[holidaysmore]

If they go Ed that means they are serious about winning. That also means Les won't be the biggest voice in the room. Ed, was a prick when he was here during the MM years. It takes balls to stand up to Les.

If they go Eargle we might as well kiss the Les era to bed. That is a move that they are clearly trusting Les to run this into program and I'm not sold he can.

[NewtonHawk11]

I wouldn't call it optimism right now. This is probably the lowest I've been right now on KU football. But that's not to say that I don't like the way that Miles is building up the program. Because it is the right way. The long way, but the right way.

But 4th hire in 3 years is problematic. No matter the circumstances of why the previous OCs left.

Regarding Warinner, he seems to have a big time soft spot for KU. He's ALWAYS interested when something comes up.

At what point does this mess prove out to be "the right way"?

At a certain point, it's about the talent on the field and not the coaches in the box. Yes coaches, call the plays, but the players execute them. KU is recruiting and playing 18-19 year olds. That is going to matter a lot in the next couple of years.

That's what I mean by the right way.

[CrimsonNBlue]

That point gets here sooner if we didn't have to introduce 1.3 new OC's on average each season.

[NewtonHawk11]

That point gets here sooner if we didn't have to introduce 1.3 new OC's on average each season.

Not lying.

[holidaysmore]

This.

It takes times to learn a system and become familiar with the tendencies of the OC especially at the collegiate level.

[CrimsonNBlue]

[NewtonHawk11]

I mean. It’s pretty obvious he left because of family. Miles called it a tough decision. Dearmon said he was looking forward to being back home.

He was too far away from home. Who knows the situation is, but he wanted to be close to home.

That’s fine. This is Miles’ most important hire to date.

[UnholyLivingDead]

Wasn't Jalon Daniels originally committed to Middle Tennessee State? Then Dearmon convinced him to flip to Kansas?

[sdoyel]

Is it bad that I don’t really care that Dearmon left?

[NewtonHawk11]

Wasn't Jalon Daniels originally committed to Middle Tennessee State? Then Dearmon convinced him to flip to Kansas?

This made me laugh..

https://twitter.com/jifhawk/status/1354 ... 10657?s=21

[NewtonHawk11]

Take it for what it’s worth but there have been a handful of KU guys and commits who have recently followed Warinner on Twitter. Could that mean that he’s coming to Lawrence? Not sure, but definitely interesting.

[holidaysmore]

I’m torn on Warinner. If he is still the same asshole he was when he was here does that translate well to 2021? Can he recruit? On the flip side some discipline and tough love never hurt. I bitched and complained last year that the offense they tried to run didn’t fit the pieces they had. If I remember correctly Warinner ran a pretty run heavy offense so again do the pieces fit for the schemes he wants to run?
A lot of unknowns but outside of taking a ‘flyer’ on someone like a Dearmon I’m guessing there probably aren’t that many great options that want to take a chance on what could be a career suicide move to come here.