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Re: 2024

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 1:58 pm
by ousdahl
twocoach wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 3:24 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:42 am Speaking of “should have had the dignity,” I wonder how Feinstein managed to turn a senator’s salary of $174k/year into a net worth in the hundreds of millions…
https://marketrealist.com/p/richard-blu ... ansactions.
I guess the sugar daddy explanation is legit enough.

So then the issue becomes, just how representative to a democracy politicians with billionaire spouses can really be.

Also…



Re: 2024

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 2:06 pm
by KUTradition
ousdahl wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:58 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 3:24 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:42 am Speaking of “should have had the dignity,” I wonder how Feinstein managed to turn a senator’s salary of $174k/year into a net worth in the hundreds of millions…
https://marketrealist.com/p/richard-blu ... ansactions.
I guess the sugar daddy explanation is legit enough.

So then the issue becomes, just how representative to a democracy politicians with billionaire spouses can really be.

Also…


so, by that logic, marrying into wealth should disqualify someone from holding office?

odd

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 2:09 pm
by ousdahl
That’s quite the leap.

I only asked just how representative it can really be.

But, fuck it, why not. Let’s do it, Qusdahl!

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 2:23 pm
by KUTradition
i mean, there’s a reason the term gold-digger exists, right?

are you sure it’s not that you’d just rather that particular demographic not be represented?

it’s very much a part of our democracy

or do you think rich people in general, regardless of how they came about their wealth, not be represented?

if not that, then what level of representation are you comfortable with?

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 2:27 pm
by KUTradition
put another way, nearly 20% of this country is 14 or younger…where’s their representation?

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 7:57 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:58 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 3:24 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:42 am Speaking of “should have had the dignity,” I wonder how Feinstein managed to turn a senator’s salary of $174k/year into a net worth in the hundreds of millions…
https://marketrealist.com/p/richard-blu ... ansactions.
I guess the sugar daddy explanation is legit enough.

So then the issue becomes, just how representative to a democracy politicians with billionaire spouses can really be.

Also…


The notion that politicians are supposed to "represent their constituents" as an actual "they're like me" is ridiculous. The current GOP is trying that path and it has resulted in a bunch of incompetent morons being put into Congress.

Sorry, but I would rather have intelligent, successful people as my representation in Congress. It's a hard job that should be done by smarter, more organized people than me.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 9:43 pm
by Sparko
Twocoach: it takes true self confidence and humility to acknowledge one's weakness. It takes both to seek out experts to help guide a thriving democracy. Instead, we have generations since the Baby Boom who got too much handed to them and post here spouting hate at others like it is some kind of divine inspiration. Nothing we have in America is guaranteed except stupidity. Only this generation would mess around with the debt ceiling or ignore climate change. Mass extinction is not the rapture. But they will sell it that way.

Re: 2024

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 2:17 pm
by ousdahl
man, four great Onion articles in a row.

but, in case any of you guys weren't actually going for satire, let me know.

I'm willing to debate the notion that it's ridiculous for politicians to represent their constituents.

(seriously you guys, read that again)

or, perhaps I should just ask - if politicians are NOT supposed to represent their constituents, then who or what, exactly, are politicians supposed to represent?

put another way - if not, then what exactly is the point of democracy?

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 3:19 pm
by Shirley

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 4:25 pm
by Mjl
Wait - they weren't bailed out, they're gone. Their depositors were bailed out

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 5:08 pm
by Shirley
Mjl wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:25 pm Wait - they weren't bailed out, they're gone. Their depositors were bailed out
A bailout or not? Did the federal government bailout Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank?

...“VCs should say thank you,” wrote NYT’s and CNBC’s Andrew Ross Sorkin on Twitter.

“It is a bailout,” he wrote. “Not like 2008. But it is a bailout of the venture capital community + their portfolio companies (their investments). That’s the depositor base of SVB.”

[...]

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 6:14 pm
by Mjl
But in the context, given who he was talking to, it wasn't a bailout.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 10:04 pm
by Shirley
Mjl wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:14 pm But in the context, given who he was talking to, it wasn't a bailout.
You tell him, I'm not going to.

Senator John Fetterman asked a serious question today, and many on Twitter can only mock him for stuttering. Please refrain from attacking someone for having verbal effects of a stroke.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 10:21 pm
by Mjl
I didn't comment on how he said it. The content was the problem I have with it

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 8:04 am
by jfish26
Not boding well for the Rs.


Re: 2024

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 6:55 am
by jfish26

Re: 2024

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 9:21 am
by Shirley
Although the Libs are trying to create the impression that republicans have no policy ideas or programs to offer other than more tax cuts for the rich while suppressing women's rights and advancing a nation-wide effort to suppress the votes of minorities and people unlikely to vote for them, i.e., no effort to engage in issues the majority of the American electorate cares about, this should put the lie to that slanderous meme, instantaneously:


Re: 2024

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 9:28 am
by jfish26
Feral wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 9:21 am Although the Libs are trying to create the impression that republicans have no policy ideas or programs to offer other than more tax cuts for the rich while suppressing women's rights and advancing a nation-wide effort to suppress the votes of minorities and people unlikely to vote for them, i.e., no effort to engage in issues the majority of the American electorate cares about, this should put the lie to that slanderous meme, instantaneously:

Can we bring back Celebrity Deathmatch just for a one time claymation battle between her and Kari Lake, for the veep spot on Trump 2024’s ticket?

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 12:59 pm
by jfish26

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 2:40 pm
by KUTradition
tim scott formally in the mix