Kansas Crimson

Feral wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:49 am

So, unless you're among "the highest-paid tier of workers", you shouldn't have kids.

Good to know.

Geezer wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:22 am Lemme guess, you're single.

Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:53 am

lobster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:21 am

chiknbut wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:14 pm As for dropping kids at daycare and how that's not acceptable - who are you to decide what is acceptable and what isn't for a specific family? Do you have any examples to back up your claim? Please add them if/when you find them.

HD already responded to most everything, but I did want to focus on this one area you asked me about. You're right, I am not in a position to tell anyone else what to do. I don't believe I made such a claim on here, as I'm just making my arguments and try to back them up with logical reasoning.

In regards to daycare, I think it's essential to avoid it if you can. Obviously, single parents need some help and some kind of daycare service is going to become necessary (this is one of the reasons why it's so important to try to marry a good partner, but I'm digressing). I think anytime you put your little one in arms of a stranger, all kinds of problems can happen. The child could bond with the workers, germs spread like wild fire in those places, abuse sometimes happens to the children, etc. I personally believe that daycare should be a last resort. I know a few people out here in Los Angeles where both parents work when the wife could easily survive off her husband's salary. I bite my tongue, but I feel sad for their children. If you want kids, then don't dump them in daycare. Have one of the parents stay home or work from home part time until the child is old enough for school.

BTW, I applaud you for adopting two children. That's really unselfish and I admire that a lot.

I disagree with the details on almost all of this, but to narrow it down to one thing - why do you say the woman should stay home? Why not the man?

DrPepper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:02 am

lobster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:23 pm 3rd wave feminism is ridiculous and silly. Originally feminism was very important for equal rights.

Lobster, I’m trying to figure out from this thread what you point(s) is. How are you defining 3rd wave feminism?

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:13 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:53 am

lobster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:21 am

HD already responded to most everything, but I did want to focus on this one area you asked me about. You're right, I am not in a position to tell anyone else what to do. I don't believe I made such a claim on here, as I'm just making my arguments and try to back them up with logical reasoning.

In regards to daycare, I think it's essential to avoid it if you can. Obviously, single parents need some help and some kind of daycare service is going to become necessary (this is one of the reasons why it's so important to try to marry a good partner, but I'm digressing). I think anytime you put your little one in arms of a stranger, all kinds of problems can happen. The child could bond with the workers, germs spread like wild fire in those places, abuse sometimes happens to the children, etc. I personally believe that daycare should be a last resort. I know a few people out here in Los Angeles where both parents work when the wife could easily survive off her husband's salary. I bite my tongue, but I feel sad for their children. If you want kids, then don't dump them in daycare. Have one of the parents stay home or work from home part time until the child is old enough for school.

BTW, I applaud you for adopting two children. That's really unselfish and I admire that a lot.

I disagree with the details on almost all of this, but to narrow it down to one thing - why do you say the woman should stay home? Why not the man?

Why are you framing this as if it is some sort of onerous chore or a form of insult to stay at home and raise the child you created? If you don't want to raise and care for kids, you probably shouldn't have them.

lobster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:53 pm Alright then, DC. I'll change the thread name again, just for you.

Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:19 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:13 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:53 am

I disagree with the details on almost all of this, but to narrow it down to one thing - why do you say the woman should stay home? Why not the man?

Why are you framing this as if it is some sort of onerous chore or a form of insult to stay at home and raise the child you created? If you don't want to raise and care for kids, you probably shouldn't have them.

If I understand you correctly, any couple that prefers a lifestyle that dual incomes can provide should not have children?

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:24 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:19 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:13 pm

Why are you framing this as if it is some sort of onerous chore or a form of insult to stay at home and raise the child you created? If you don't want to raise and care for kids, you probably shouldn't have them.

If I understand you correctly, any couple that prefers a lifestyle that dual incomes can provide should not have children?

I think a lot of our culture’s problems can be attributed to children born into families where neither parents is interested in taking on the responsibility of raising them.

RussianHawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:32 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:24 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:19 pm

If I understand you correctly, any couple that prefers a lifestyle that dual incomes can provide should not have children?

I think a lot of our culture’s problems can be attributed to children born into families where neither parents is interested in taking on the responsibility of raising them.

Is this issue separate from or on top of most women not having morals? You should also work on your grammar/spelling.

lobster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:52 pm Can we please refrain from the "your spelling / grammar is wrong" sort of responses? I realize my own writing is imperfect, but it's neither here nor there in what we are discussing.