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Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:40 pm
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:11 am
Many of you do very little to make the situation better imo....not that it's your responsibility, it isn't. But he is doing exactly what many of you want, or at least that's how it seems.
That said pwhitt was not wrong to temporarily ban him. He said some things that were more than offensive, even if it didnt seem he was being totally serious.
I doubt that many of us want him to post at all, let alone post how he does. This place has become dramatically more contentious with the influx of the majority of his posts. Great for Free Speech but it turns the site into an unpleasant mess. Winning?
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:44 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:17 am
was Count always this bad?
I mean he was always obnoxiously partisan, though usually seemed innocuous enough.
That is, until this latest iteration, when he just seemed to be completely loosing it.
He mirrors one of the ugly parts of the country that has ramped up in intensity in the last three years. As HouseDivided pointed out, with all this "winning" why would a conservative have anything to bitch about?
Yet here we are, watching some folks rail on about blacks, women, Jews, Dems and immigrants. Same old, same old.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:55 pm
by HouseDivided
twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:44 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:17 am
was Count always this bad?
I mean he was always obnoxiously partisan, though usually seemed innocuous enough.
That is, until this latest iteration, when he just seemed to be completely loosing it.
He mirrors one of the ugly parts of the country that has ramped up in intensity in the last three years. As HouseDivided pointed out, with all this "winning" why would a conservative have anything to bitch about?
Yet here we are, watching some folks rail on about blacks, women, Jews, Dems and immigrants. Same old, same old.
I know, right? Cuz you all never rant and rave about ANYTHING.
Could it be that dissatisfaction is a part of human nature? Just spitballin' here.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:58 pm
by Deleted User 75
chiknbut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:28 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:11 am
Many of you do very little to make the situation better imo....not that it's your responsibility, it isn't. But he is doing exactly what many of you want, or at least that's how it seems.
That said pwhitt was not wrong to temporarily ban him. He said some things that were more than offensive, even if it didnt seem he was being totally serious.
Please explain how others make the situation just as bad? I have no idea how you are going to back this up logically.
I'm not going to back that statement up because that's not what I said.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:10 pm
by HouseDivided
chiknbut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:28 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:11 am
Many of you do very little to make the situation better imo....not that it's your responsibility, it isn't. But he is doing exactly what many of you want, or at least that's how it seems.
That said pwhitt was not wrong to temporarily ban him. He said some things that were more than offensive, even if it didnt seem he was being totally serious.
Please explain how others make the situation just as bad? I have no idea how you are going to back this up logically.
I'm not going to defend the actions that got IMZ banned, but you can't seriously be pretending that your practice of following him from thread to thread and topic to topic lobbing insults and belittling his every comment wasn't intended to rile him up and get him to do something stupid.
You guys were like a pack of wolves setting on prey that had wandered from the herd. I sat back and watched it happen over the weekend, and it was horrifying. I PM'ed him several times to try to get him to dial it down, and he absolutely chose to do what he did, but it did not happen in a vacuum.
You enjoyed every minute of it; you are reveling in the fact that he got a time out, and yet at the same time you pretend to be horrified and can't imagine why someone would act like that.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:43 pm
by twocoach
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:10 pm
chiknbut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:28 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:11 am
Many of you do very little to make the situation better imo....not that it's your responsibility, it isn't. But he is doing exactly what many of you want, or at least that's how it seems.
That said pwhitt was not wrong to temporarily ban him. He said some things that were more than offensive, even if it didnt seem he was being totally serious.
Please explain how others make the situation just as bad? I have no idea how you are going to back this up logically.
I'm not going to defend the actions that got IMZ banned, but you can't seriously be pretending that your practice of following him from thread to thread and topic to topic lobbing insults and belittling his every comment wasn't intended to rile him up and get him to do something stupid.
You guys were like a pack of wolves setting on prey that had wandered from the herd. I sat back and watched it happen over the weekend, and it was horrifying. I PM'ed him several times to try to get him to dial it down, and he absolutely chose to do what he did, but it did not happen in a vacuum.
You enjoyed every minute of it; you are reveling in the fact that he got a time out, and yet at the same time you pretend to be horrified and can't imagine why someone would act like that.
So when you call out Dems, you are simply "speaking the truth" but when we call out Count, we're "like a pack of wolves egging him on to his eventual demise". Got it.
Yet another behind the scenes plot by Dems to take advantage of some poor, hapless conservative victim.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:47 pm
by chiknbut
I'm in no way pretending to be horrified. I think you're being a little dramatic here. And yes, I am glad he got a timeout. Now people can actually have a normal discussion around here.
In my mind it didn't make sense to try and engage Count in any political debate for one main reason - he doesn't care. So when I run into someone who is so pig-headed and clearly just trying to get a rise out of people, I treat them with contempt. And I ridicule.
You, who at times can be worse than Count, can at least admit when someone else has a good point worth considering. Doesn't happen much, but every once in awhile when you decide to play like a big boy you can be reasonable.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:57 pm
by HouseDivided
twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:43 pm
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:10 pm
chiknbut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:28 pm
Please explain how others make the situation just as bad? I have no idea how you are going to back this up logically.
I'm not going to defend the actions that got IMZ banned, but you can't seriously be pretending that your practice of following him from thread to thread and topic to topic lobbing insults and belittling his every comment wasn't intended to rile him up and get him to do something stupid.
You guys were like a pack of wolves setting on prey that had wandered from the herd. I sat back and watched it happen over the weekend, and it was horrifying. I PM'ed him several times to try to get him to dial it down, and he absolutely chose to do what he did, but it did not happen in a vacuum.
You enjoyed every minute of it; you are reveling in the fact that he got a time out, and yet at the same time you pretend to be horrified and can't imagine why someone would act like that.
So when you call out Dems, you are simply "speaking the truth" but when we call out Count, we're "like a pack of wolves egging him on to his eventual demise". Got it.
Yet another behind the scenes plot by Dems to take advantage of some poor, hapless conservative victim.
I am a one-man gang; ten of you together is a pack. I guarantee I have never told any of you to "f-off and die" or "kill yourself", much less call you names every time you post.
You poked the animal in the cage until it lashed back. Good for you.
Don't pretend like you can't see it.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:00 pm
by HouseDivided
chiknbut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:47 pm
I'm in no way pretending to be horrified. I think you're being a little dramatic here. And yes, I am glad he got a timeout. Now people can actually have a normal discussion around here.
In my mind it didn't make sense to try and engage Count in any political debate for one main reason - he doesn't care. So when I run into someone who is so pig-headed and clearly just trying to get a rise out of people, I treat them with contempt. And I ridicule.
You, who at times can be worse than Count, can at least admit when someone else has a good point worth considering. Doesn't happen much, but every once in awhile when you decide to play like a big boy you can be reasonable.
As I said, I'm not excusing his behavior, nor am I denying that he was making the board unpleasant. I am, however, saying that your behavior was wrong, too. If you don't want to acknowledge that, it is completely up to you.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:11 pm
by twocoach
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:57 pm
I am a one-man gang; ten of you together is a pack. I guarantee I have never told any of you to "f-off and die" or "kill yourself", much less call you names every time you post.
You poked the animal in the cage until it lashed back. Good for you.
Don't pretend like you can't see it.
You're such a huge hypocrite. You have been THE primary voice stating that Trump poking the animal in the cage has no bearing on and shares no responsibility for the behavior of those animals.
You don't get to play it both ways without being called out on it.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:13 pm
by HouseDivided
twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:11 pm
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:57 pm
I am a one-man gang; ten of you together is a pack. I guarantee I have never told any of you to "f-off and die" or "kill yourself", much less call you names every time you post.
You poked the animal in the cage until it lashed back. Good for you.
Don't pretend like you can't see it.
You're such a huge hypocrite. You have been THE primary voice stating that Trump poking the animal in the cage has no bearing on and shares no responsibility for the behavior of those animals.
You don't get to play it both ways without being called out on it.
Come on.
I'm not saying you are RESPONSIBLE for IMZ's behavior. I am saying that you helped it along on purpose, and that it is disingenuous to then step back and act as if you didn't.
Two very different things.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:30 pm
by twocoach
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:13 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:11 pm
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:57 pm
I am a one-man gang; ten of you together is a pack. I guarantee I have never told any of you to "f-off and die" or "kill yourself", much less call you names every time you post.
You poked the animal in the cage until it lashed back. Good for you.
Don't pretend like you can't see it.
You're such a huge hypocrite. You have been THE primary voice stating that Trump poking the animal in the cage has no bearing on and shares no responsibility for the behavior of those animals.
You don't get to play it both ways without being called out on it.
Come on.
I'm not saying you are RESPONSIBLE for IMZ's behavior. I am saying that you helped it along on purpose, and that it is disingenuous to then step back and act as if you didn't.
Two very different things.
I knew from the moment that I saw that Count was allowed on this site that he would eventually get banned. There was no need to help it along. He has shown consistently that he is unable to participate in this type of format without going completely overboard and getting banned.
It was as predictable as the sunset. He cannot handle this. No need to help.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:01 pm
by seahawk
I'm the worst person at sussing out "socks," but I've always assumed that the Count was someone's sock. Seems a little odd to be blaming others for a sock getting banned.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:28 pm
by chiknbut
Yes, Psych was "horrified" that anyone would call out a sock who posted a "How Bad Does Your Butt Smell" topic.
LOL.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:50 pm
by HouseDivided
chiknbut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:28 pm
Yes, Psych was "horrified" that anyone would call out a sock who posted a "How Bad Does Your Butt Smell" topic.
LOL.
Count is a sock? Seriously?
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:51 pm
by DCHawk1
I would have believed that until the last outburst/meltdown.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:09 pm
by Mjl
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:57 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:43 pm
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:10 pm
I am a one-man gang; ten of you together is a pack. I guarantee I have never told any of you to "f-off and die" or "kill yourself", much less call you names every time you post.
You poked the animal in the cage until it lashed back. Good for you.
Don't pretend like you can't see it.
The "kill yourself" was justified. I don't generally respond to him and don't try to get under people's skin here.
He's spreading anti-semitic propaganda, the same kind of stuff that influenced and was spread by the shooter, the day after it happened. A reason there has been such an uptick in antisemitic events over the last couple years is with social media and message boards, people find others just like them and think it's ok to spew this kind of hate.
It's not. It's dangerous.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:51 pm
by HouseDivided
Mjl wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:09 pm
The "kill yourself" was justified. I don't generally respond to him and don't try to get under people's skin here.
He's spreading anti-semitic propaganda, the same kind of stuff that influenced and was spread by the shooter, the day after it happened. A reason there has been such an uptick in antisemitic events over the last couple years is with social media and message boards, people find others just like them and think it's ok to spew this kind of hate.
It's not. It's dangerous.
I share your distaste for anti-Semitism, but there is no justification for telling someone to kill themselves. It is as far over the line as the action that evoked it.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:01 pm
by Shirley
Long ago I wondered if Imzcount was shade's sock, but that didn't last long, considering how unliterate Imzcount is. I doubt he's a sock.
Re: This is why I get a warning?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:08 pm
by ousdahl
That would be the most dedicated sock ever.
Like for real how many wingnut message boards would you have to visit to find all those memes?