Kansas Crimson

Professional sports is where the teams (schools in this instance) pay the players a salary.

That's not what is being suggested.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:25 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:13 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:12 am Most realize that the head coaches, asst coaches, kids, parents, guardians, handlers, aau coaches, shoe companies, agents, posses, hangersoners are participating in nonsense on the recruiting trail. We just don't know what, if anything, can be done about it.

But: yes, we do.

I assume that IF they knew how to fix it in a satisfactory manner that will satisfy most, if not satisfy all, they will/would do so. They have not done so as of yet. So I take that mean they don't know how, yet. Maybe they will know how down the road. Maybe.

You put 5 so-called experts around a table and ask them what to do, we get 4 different answers.

But only one answer/solution results in the NCAA and its member institutions continuing to get fat rich and happy. That's the solution they've always gone with and why things have not changed.

It took millions of taxpayer dollars for the NCAA to finally have to answer for the absolute nonsensical feel goodiness that is amateurism.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:13 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:12 am Most realize that the head coaches, asst coaches, kids, parents, guardians, handlers, aau coaches, shoe companies, agents, posses, hangersoners are participating in nonsense on the recruiting trail. We just don't know what, if anything, can be done about it.

But: yes, we do.

What we know is that changes could be made that result in different things happening such as shoe contracts and agents to college players and elite are recruits to the NBA. What we dont know is whether or not those changes would eliminate the rule breaking or just move the sport to new models of rule breaking.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:28 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:25 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:13 am

But: yes, we do.

I assume that IF they knew how to fix it in a satisfactory manner that will satisfy most, if not satisfy all, they will/would do so. They have not done so as of yet. So I take that mean they don't know how, yet. Maybe they will know how down the road. Maybe.

You put 5 so-called experts around a table and ask them what to do, we get 4 different answers.

But only one answer/solution results in the NCAA and its member institutions continuing to get fat rich and happy. That's the solution they've always gone with and why things have not changed.

It took millions of taxpayer dollars for the NCAA to finally have to answer for the absolute nonsensical feel goodiness that is amateurism.

Has the NCAA actually had to answer for any of this? They have done virtually nothing about the problems exposed by the FBI.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:01 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:28 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:25 am

I assume that IF they knew how to fix it in a satisfactory manner that will satisfy most, if not satisfy all, they will/would do so. They have not done so as of yet. So I take that mean they don't know how, yet. Maybe they will know how down the road. Maybe.

You put 5 so-called experts around a table and ask them what to do, we get 4 different answers.

But only one answer/solution results in the NCAA and its member institutions continuing to get fat rich and happy. That's the solution they've always gone with and why things have not changed.

It took millions of taxpayer dollars for the NCAA to finally have to answer for the absolute nonsensical feel goodiness that is amateurism.

Has the NCAA actually had to answer for any of this? They have done virtually nothing about the problems exposed by the FBI.

Be careful what you wish for. We'd be better served if they drag their feet for a few years so that more schools (coaches) can get caught up....because as it sits right now it appears if they're going to make a statement related to the FBI trials it's likely going to be at the expense of Kansas/UL/Zona....

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:00 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:13 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:12 am Most realize that the head coaches, asst coaches, kids, parents, guardians, handlers, aau coaches, shoe companies, agents, posses, hangersoners are participating in nonsense on the recruiting trail. We just don't know what, if anything, can be done about it.

But: yes, we do.

What we know is that changes could be made that result in different things happening such as shoe contracts and agents to college players and elite are recruits to the NBA. What we dont know is whether or not those changes would eliminate the rule breaking or just move the sport to new models of rule breaking.

Again: you would have trouble finding a neutral expert on markets and human psychology who thinks that throwing sunshine (and rules and disclosure and reporting) onto a black market is likely to make things worse.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:01 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:28 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:25 am

I assume that IF they knew how to fix it in a satisfactory manner that will satisfy most, if not satisfy all, they will/would do so. They have not done so as of yet. So I take that mean they don't know how, yet. Maybe they will know how down the road. Maybe.

You put 5 so-called experts around a table and ask them what to do, we get 4 different answers.

But only one answer/solution results in the NCAA and its member institutions continuing to get fat rich and happy. That's the solution they've always gone with and why things have not changed.

It took millions of taxpayer dollars for the NCAA to finally have to answer for the absolute nonsensical feel goodiness that is amateurism.

Has the NCAA actually had to answer for any of this? They have done virtually nothing about the problems exposed by the FBI.

In true NCAA fashion: The Rice Commission.

Any news on the Nike front or is this just a rehash of the 50 page amateurism debate? I could read it I suppose

Rehash.

TDub wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:19 pm Any news on the Nike front or is this just a rehash of the 50 page amateurism debate? I could read it I suppose

The source in this case is not exactly reliable.

https://twitter.com/ScottGreenfield/sta ... 2328912897

Sigh. Not looking forward to the jokes about this that will end up being pretty insulting to folks who (generally speaking) are hard-working and pretty selfless.

Here we go. The problem is the NCAA's cash cow is the NCAA basketball tournament. They really do not get any money from football. This guy is going to burn NIKE. Which is going to burn Duke, UK, UNC and a host of others.

https://247sports.com/college/georgia/L ... 30931221_1

Michael Avenatti, the celebrity attorney arrested in March for allegedly attempting to extort Nike for $20 million, has tossed Duke freshman Zion Williamson under the bus in a social media firestorm posted on Twitter.

Avenatti tweeted on Friday that Nike executive Carlton DeBose, bribed Williamson and over 100 other high school basketball athletes over the past four years to play for Swoosh-sponsored programs. Avenatti attests that Williamson's mother, Sharonda Sampson, received money from Nike during her son's recruitment to attend Duke.

Avenatti has stuck to the same story since he and another attorney threatened to release damaging information about Nike if it did not meet his demands after his arrest in March.

Please be true. And hopefully K or one of his cronies is on tape or said to know about it.

Kinda surprised Duke has waited so long to release a “thorough investigation” tweet absolving themselves of any wrongdoing.

Also, how come Zion’s name wasn’t mentioned until after Duke’s season was over?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/282 ... amsons-mom

Clearing announcement to soon follow...

They don't need to clear a guy who will never play another game in the NCAA.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:12 pm They don't need to clear a guy who will never play another game in the NCAA.

Please stop spreading your dumb.

It’s ‘clearing’ them of any wrongdoing

TIA

Clearing Coach K

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:09 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:00 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:13 am

But: yes, we do.

What we know is that changes could be made that result in different things happening such as shoe contracts and agents to college players and elite are recruits to the NBA. What we dont know is whether or not those changes would eliminate the rule breaking or just move the sport to new models of rule breaking.

Again: you would have trouble finding a neutral expert on markets and human psychology who thinks that throwing sunshine (and rules and disclosure and reporting) onto a black market is likely to make things worse.

Sure, but in the case of drug cartels, it could be easily argued that it’s making hem shift to products whose effects are much worse.