Paul1 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:06 pm
lobster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:26 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:27 am
the day it happened, I remember watching the towers fall in real time and thinking, man that's not how I would have imagined a building that got hit by an airplane would fall.
but yeah, I stop short of full blown conspiracy.
The conspiracy part is with the idiots that think planes did not hit the towers and pentagon, or that missiles were used. Thermite might also be untrue as well. The twin towers might have fallen due to the plane damage alone, but there were explosives inside the buildings. Tower 7 on the other hand, could not have fallen the way it did due to fires on one side of it. Impossible. Thousands of scientists and physicists confirm it.
What was true was that there were additional explosives in the towers. There were several vans carrying huge amounts of TNT that were stopped by the police / FBI. You never heard much about it afterwards because it didn't fit the narrative.
Also, why is it you think all that steel that remained was shipped and sold to China and India immediately after the attacks? They wanted the evidence gone asap.
"Impossible"
* Really? Has it ever happened to that building before to deem it "impossible"?
"Thousands" of scientists may "confirm it" but there are plenty who claim it is/was possible.
Who exactly is claiming that it was fire alone that brought down Tower 7? There was structural damage (that was not caused by fire) that was known before the building came down.
Once again I'll say, thousands of scientists claim global warming is a hoax and thousands claim it's not. Who is right and who is wrong? Both can't be right and both can't be wrong.
"There were additional explosives in the Tower".
* Really? What type of explosives exactly? As I said before, things explode when they are ignited/heated. Many things in the building could have exploded. You know for a fact there were explosives planted in the towers? According to whom?
"There were several vans carrying huge amounts of TNT that were stopped by the police / FBI".
* Really? "STOPPED"? Who was driving the van/s and who's TNT was it? If they were STOPPED then why/how were they involved in explosives being responsible for taking down the towers?
"ALL that steel"?
Really? "ALL"? No.
"They wanted the evidence gone asap".
Who is/are "they" exactly?
I'm kind tight to time today, but I at least wanted to start responding. I realize I need to go back to your first post as well, as I will soon.
"Impossible"
* Really? Has it ever happened to that building before to deem it "impossible"?
"Thousands" of scientists may "confirm it" but there are plenty who claim it is/was possible.
Who exactly is claiming that it was fire alone that brought down Tower 7? There was structural damage (that was not caused by fire) that was known before the building came down.
Once again I'll say, thousands of scientists claim global warming is a hoax and thousands claim it's not. Who is right and who is wrong? Both can't be right and both can't be wrong.
Buildings have collapsed from fire before, but it's very rare. And when it does happen, it doesn't fall symmetrically. Tower 7 should have tipped over to some degree if it was really caused by fire.
Tower 7 was completely omitted from the 911 report for obvious reasons (they would have no way to explain that the building came down from fire alone). So they did not say it came down from fire alone, but also didn't give any explanation of what happened. There are various other “science” sources trying to sell the public on the idea that Tower 7 collapsed from fire alone. It's the laws of physics – a building cannot fall the way it did from a fire on the edges on one side of the building. This tower housed important CIA documents that were destroyed, which is easy to figure out why they demolished it.
In regards to global warming, it's tough to say who is right. I would argue that there is definitely a strong evidence that the world is getting warmer, but whether or not it's because of people is tougher to figure out.
"There were additional explosives in the Tower".
* Really? What type of explosives exactly? As I said before, things explode when they are ignited/heated. Many things in the building could have exploded. You know for a fact there were explosives planted in the towers? According to whom?
It remains unknown what type. Some people think it was thermite was used, I have my doubts that it was such. Lots of people (too many to list) believe there was some kind of explosives placed on certain areas of all 3 towers that went down. I obviously don't know the who, but there's a lot of evidence that there were people involved with elevator maintenance that were responsible for putting them inside the towers. Please watch some of the video links I posted, and I can supply more on the theories of was behind it.
"There were several vans carrying huge amounts of TNT that were stopped by the police / FBI".
* Really? "STOPPED"? Who was driving the van/s and who's TNT was it? If they were STOPPED then why/how were they involved in explosives being responsible for taking down the towers?
Here's a short video source on a van that were stopped that day. The exact number of vans is somewhere between 3 and 5. I can try to get other sources if you want more later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya7n6ItkUF8
The goal was that these vans were going to explode at the base of the towers (just like in 1993). In combination with the plane attacks, the goal was to trap over 50,000 people inside the towers. There were dozens of witnesses who heard and saw explosions at the base of the towers before they collapsed, including firefighters. See below for one of dozens of examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp9YmTnYP90
Of course, the greater concern is, why was this not brought up again after 911?
"ALL that steel"?
Really? "ALL"? No.
Okay, not all of it, but we're missing the bigger point here. Why was is so quickly shipped off and sold? Any other crime scene would have required they not destroy the evidence. The most obvious answer would be that they didn't want the steel examined before it was recycled.
"They wanted the evidence gone asap".
Who is/are "they" exactly?
The persons who had prior knowledge of the attack before it was coming. All signs indicate it was a combination of high-level CIA workers and other high-level government employees. Others who knew were from Israel, some of them, “our” terrorists.
There were 5 Israelis that were arrested at Lincoln Park on 911. They were out filming the attack on the towers before it happened. They were seen celebrating the attacks. Even more disturbing is that our government just sent them back to their country and Bin Laden was blamed instead. This answer is just the tip of iceberg. I encourage you to research more about this.
http://www.todayscatholicworld.com/moss ... ts-911.htm