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Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:37 am
by CrimsonNBlue
I'm not worried about a B1G team having a stranglehold on AP #1 over us. Silly.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:04 am
by NewtonHawk11
Correct. They've had a better resume to this point than Kansas.

But Kansas will have the best resume when all is said and done. Provided they do what they should and win a high majority of the rest of their games.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:24 am
by PhDhawk
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:04 am Correct. They've had a better resume to this point than Kansas.

But Kansas will have the best resume when all is said and done. Provided they do what they should and win a high majority of the rest of their games.
Really? I don't know that I agree with your first premise. Our SOS is #3 and theirs is #11.

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-baske ... h-by-other

But, if you're saying their resume is better now, then I don't think ours gets better than theirs going forward. B1G and Big12 are fairly similar this year. Big12 is better, but the B1G is better than it has been in some years.

Remaining Non-Conference out best opponent is #20 Villanova and theirs is #8 Kentucky.

They have 2 games each against #4 MD, #5 Michigan, and one game against Michigan State. Baylor is the only other team in the Big12 currently ranked.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:13 pm
by jhawks99
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:24 am
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:04 am Correct. They've had a better resume to this point than Kansas.

But Kansas will have the best resume when all is said and done. Provided they do what they should and win a high majority of the rest of their games.
Really? I don't know that I agree with your first premise. Our SOS is #3 and theirs is #11.

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-baske ... h-by-other

But, if you're saying their resume is better now, then I don't think ours gets better than theirs going forward. B1G and Big12 are fairly similar this year. Big12 is better, but the B1G is better than it has been in some years.

Remaining Non-Conference out best opponent is #20 Villanova and theirs is #8 Kentucky.

They have 2 games each against #4 MD, #5 Michigan, and one game against Michigan State. Baylor is the only other team in the Big12 currently ranked.
TT will be ranked.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:40 pm
by pdub
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:24 am
Really? I don't know that I agree with your first premise. Our SOS is #3 and theirs is #11.
And building on that, KU's SOS in Kenpom is 29th, OSU's 182.
( though OSU is 1st in Kenpom, we're 5th )

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:10 pm
by Deleted User 104
One more shitty team and then finally we play the real teams.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:59 pm
by PhDhawk
Dook, dayton, byu, and colorado weren't real?

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:12 pm
by TDub
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:59 pm Dook, dayton, byu, and colorado weren't real?

Clearly you havent been following the youtube tv rankings.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:36 pm
by Deleted User 104
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:59 pm Dook, dayton, byu, and colorado weren't real?
Where did I say these were not "real"? I was talking specifically about the two recent teams we scheduled, which are a joke (Milwaukee and UMKC). Remember "nuance".

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:43 pm
by Deleted User 104
I'm seriously, Milwaukee? We should have just scheduled Wichita State and beat the shit out of them.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:59 am
by HouseDivided
lobster wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:43 pm I'm seriously, Milwaukee? We should have just scheduled Wichita State and beat the shit out of them.
We should never give WSU or WSU fan the satisfaction of acknowledging them, much less acceding to their demands for a game. Greg Marshall is beneath contempt.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:50 am
by PhDhawk
lobster wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:36 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:59 pm Dook, dayton, byu, and colorado weren't real?
Where did I say these were not "real"? I was talking specifically about the two recent teams we scheduled, which are a joke (Milwaukee and UMKC). Remember "nuance".
how about clarity?

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:50 pm
by Deleted User 104
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:59 am
lobster wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:43 pm I'm seriously, Milwaukee? We should have just scheduled Wichita State and beat the shit out of them.
We should never give WSU or WSU fan the satisfaction of acknowledging them, much less acceding to their demands for a game. Greg Marshall is beneath contempt.
I'm still bitter about that they they beat us (we obviously were not very good that year). Want to see us pound Greg Marshall and then watch his wife get arrested. But maybe you're right -- maybe we should just ignore them.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:55 pm
by HouseDivided
lobster wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:50 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:59 am
lobster wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:43 pm I'm seriously, Milwaukee? We should have just scheduled Wichita State and beat the shit out of them.
We should never give WSU or WSU fan the satisfaction of acknowledging them, much less acceding to their demands for a game. Greg Marshall is beneath contempt.
I'm still bitter about that they they beat us (we obviously were not very good that year). Want to see us pound Greg Marshall and then watch his wife get arrested. But maybe you're right -- maybe we should just ignore them.
Forgot to add his wife. She belongs in an institution. They are both examples of what happens when you give White trash a little money and status.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:01 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:55 pm
lobster wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:50 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:59 am

We should never give WSU or WSU fan the satisfaction of acknowledging them, much less acceding to their demands for a game. Greg Marshall is beneath contempt.
I'm still bitter about that they they beat us (we obviously were not very good that year). Want to see us pound Greg Marshall and then watch his wife get arrested. But maybe you're right -- maybe we should just ignore them.
Forgot to add his wife. She belongs in an institution. They are both examples of what happens when you give White trash a little money and status.
This might be the most I’ve ever agreed with you. This is a 100% spot on assessment. You can tell by the wife and daughter.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:09 pm
by Deleted User 104
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:55 pm
lobster wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:50 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:59 am

We should never give WSU or WSU fan the satisfaction of acknowledging them, much less acceding to their demands for a game. Greg Marshall is beneath contempt.
I'm still bitter about that they they beat us (we obviously were not very good that year). Want to see us pound Greg Marshall and then watch his wife get arrested. But maybe you're right -- maybe we should just ignore them.
Forgot to add his wife. She belongs in an institution. They are both examples of what happens when you give White trash a little money and status.
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Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:44 am
by twocoach
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:55 pm
lobster wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:50 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:59 am

We should never give WSU or WSU fan the satisfaction of acknowledging them, much less acceding to their demands for a game. Greg Marshall is beneath contempt.
I'm still bitter about that they they beat us (we obviously were not very good that year). Want to see us pound Greg Marshall and then watch his wife get arrested. But maybe you're right -- maybe we should just ignore them.
Forgot to add his wife. She belongs in an institution. They are both examples of what happens when you give White trash a little money and status.
"Institutionalize white trash who drinks too much and can't handle their alcohol". I'd love to have a conversation on the Politics board about the impact to Trump's base as a result of that policy item. But not here.

I too was bummed to see us lose to that little weasel Marshall and his WSU team, but it didnt surprise me. Sad to see Ellis go out like that.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:52 am
by PhDhawk
twocoach wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:44 am Sad to see Ellis go out like that.
wtf are you talking about? Ellis played another year after that and went out by loosing to Villanova.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:56 am
by twocoach
PhDhawk wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:52 am
twocoach wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:44 am Sad to see Ellis go out like that.
wtf are you talking about? Ellis played another year after that and went out by loosing to Villanova.
No, I was just bummed to see his excellent season end looking so terrible
against Wichita State. He played nervous and scared and I was sad for him. He still ended up with some decent numbers thanks to good free throw shooting but he was spec up and a mess and never found his groove.

I didnt mean go out of his career, just the season. It would have been nice to see him have a great game in that one.

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:58 am
by pdub
Ellis was hurt ( knee ) in that game.