Mike has been wrong about many things, but he is right about how the Last Jedi suffered due to putting identity politics over story. Putting an agenda into a movie does not = a good story. We'll just have to wait and see if Disney was dumb enough to do another identity politics SW film.
Re: This week in feminism...
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:53 pm
by Deleted User 89
curious, but did you have this epiphany while watching the movie?
or did you come about it afterwards, after reading or watching others’ opinions?
Re: This week in feminism...
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:01 pm
by Deleted User 104
I saw the agenda while I was watching it. How could one not? I was surprised to find out that the majority of people shared my reaction after searching the internet.
Re: This week in feminism...
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:05 pm
by Deleted User 89
the thought never crossed my mind as i was watching
go figure
Re: This week in feminism...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:16 am
by jhawks99
Yeah, it will probably flop.
Re: This week in feminism...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:36 am
by twocoach
lobster wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:01 pm
I saw the agenda while I was watching it. How could one not? I was surprised to find out that the majority of people shared my reaction after searching the internet.
"The majority". Too funny. I saw the previews and said "my daughters will love that a Star Wars movie has a girl kicking butt".
I would expect the vast majority of sites and sources visited by Mich to be of a similar ilk. These garbage peddling hustlers have hit the jackpot with Trump's base. They all saw how wealthy televangelists got conning these folks out of their money and are swooping in for a slice of the pie.
Re: This week in feminism...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:44 am
by twocoach
lobster wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:41 pm
Mike has been wrong about many things, but he is right about how the Last Jedi suffered due to putting identity politics over story. Putting an agenda into a movie does not = a good story. We'll just have to wait and see if Disney was dumb enough to do another identity politics SW film.
Replace "wrong and right" with "I disagree with him on many things but on this I agree with hom". He is wrong about virtually everything. You just agree with his bad take on this one.
Re: This week in feminism...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:52 am
by chiknbut
lobster wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:01 pm
I saw the agenda while I was watching it. How could one not? I was surprised to find out that the majority of people shared my reaction after searching the internet.
In other words, you formed your opinion before paying for a ticket and, surprise-surprise, it turned out exactly as you expected.
I know this to be true because I saw it on youtube. Just can't figure out how to link things to this site.
Re: This week in feminism...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:47 am
by Deleted User 62
Wait, are you saying that if I were to, based on my pre-determined idea of what something will be....that it will be pretty much what I expected?
And going further, if I were to type in a your tube/google search of exactly what I had verified, that I would net a whole page of folks that had the same idea as me?
Creepy, spooky AND accurate?
Re: This week in feminism...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:24 pm
by chiknbut
jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:47 am
And going further, if I were to type in a your tube/google search of exactly what I had verified, that I would net a whole page of folks that had the same idea as me?
Creepy, spooky AND accurate?
Yes. Some might call it "a majority!"
Re: This week in feminism...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:28 pm
by DCHawk1
He's right, ya know:
Re: This week in feminism...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:45 pm
by Deleted User 104
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:28 pm
He's right, ya know:
Was having a discussion with my soon-to-be 18-year-old daughter about this very thing a few days ago. She has a very good friend who prefers the personal pronoun "them." Born a woman, she wants to identify as a male but, as of now, does not wish to transition.
Needless to say it makes for a very difficult conversation.
Re: This week in feminism...
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:41 am
by MICHHAWK
Live and let live.
I know 3 young people that are either in the process or soon to be in process of making the transition.
Was having a discussion with my soon-to-be 18-year-old daughter about this very thing a few days ago. She has a very good friend who prefers the personal pronoun "them." Born a woman, she wants to identify as a male but, as of now, does not wish to transition.
Needless to say it makes for a very difficult conversation.
My soon-to-be 18-year-old daughter has had "non-conforming" friends since at least middle school. One of her best friends, Tom, started Middle School as Mary (not his real name(s))), and has been referred to as "he/him" for five years now. She has two friends who identify as "non-binary," and use they/them. She has another friend who has a twin brother and thinks that she too would prefer to be male. And the list goes on.
I think a big part of it is that being an adolescent/teen-ager/young adult is fucking hard and you grab onto anything you think will provide some stability. I imagine most of my daughter's friends will figure their stuff out and will conclude that they're girls/women, but it doesn't matter. It's kind of amazing how kids today just roll with it.
Was having a discussion with my soon-to-be 18-year-old daughter about this very thing a few days ago. She has a very good friend who prefers the personal pronoun "them." Born a woman, she wants to identify as a male but, as of now, does not wish to transition.
Needless to say it makes for a very difficult conversation.
My soon-to-be 18-year-old daughter has had "non-conforming" friends since at least middle school. One of her best friends, Tom, started Middle School as Mary (not his real name(s))), and has been referred to as "he/him" for five years now. She has two friends who identify as "non-binary," and use they/them. She has another friend who has a twin brother and thinks that she too would prefer to be male. And the list goes on.
I think a big part of it is that being an adolescent/teen-ager/young adult is fucking hard and you grab onto anything you think will provide some stability. I imagine most of my daughter's friends will figure their stuff out and will conclude that they're girls/women, but it doesn't matter. It's kind of amazing how kids today just roll with it.
It is, indeed, amazing. Sadly, there are still so many obstacles, thanks mostly to our dear friend Social Fucking Media.
My daughter's friend just got back from a 40-day trip in recovery. Her biggest obstacle is her mother, an ultra-religious, Ukranian immigrant who believes her "daughter" is "mentally unstable." She sadly turned to Xanax and alcohol to cope. Just like a lot of kids these days.