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Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:09 pm
by zsn
TDub wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:03 pm
zsn wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:00 pm
TDub wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:54 pm The sue happy nature of this country has increased insurance costs for physicians to astronomical levels.
This is a lie coming from the same people who have been lying to you that the path to prosperity is through trickle-down economics. A convenient scapegoat but one not supported by facts.
My sister, who has a practice and who has never been sued for malpractice, says fuck you. So does my best friends dad, a surgeon with a private practice. So does my cousin with a private practice.
Flattering as it is I have no intentions of having coital relations with your immediate family. Be that as it may, I do not disagree or question that their malpractice insurance premiums are high. I do, however, question the reason you provided, or more accurately question the judgement of your sister, best friends' dad and your cousing regarding their gullibility of believing the malpractice-insurance providers as to why their premiums are high.

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:13 pm
by zsn
Mjl wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:00 pm Private health insurance is still big there.

Of course, Bernie thinks those Brits are corporatist far-right wingers for allowing that.
Private health insurance in UK and Germany are add-ons. That is the system we need here. I have several close friends who are also colleagues who live in the UK. We have had this discussion many times. They have no issues with the quality of the doctors they have, imported or otherwise. Yes, there may be some exceptions but "plural of anecdote is not data".

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:02 pm
by Deleted User 295
twocoach wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:58 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:40 pm JFC....just arguing to argue with your select few targets.

You didn't even disagree with him. You just made some smart ass comment.

No wonder whenever I leave you become public enemy #1. You're a clown.
Why would I disagree with him? I do not have relevant I formation about the primary factors affecting rising insurance costs. In my 5 seconds of research right now, however, I have come across studies that do not support TDub's family opinions and instead cited growing population, aging seniors, disease prevalence/incidence, medical service utilization and service price & intensity as the drivers of rising costs. But hey, a sister ranting over Christmas dinner is probably a more reliable source. Not one of the studies I found mentioned litigation from the sue-happy folks as a driver in rising health insurance costs.
In my 5 seconds of reading your post right now I determined that you looked up the reasons for OUR Healthcare costs rising.

Again, if you were paying attention you'd have noticed in your 5seconds that what was being discussed were the rising costs of becoming a doctor and being a doctor. As in the costs doctors incur for running a private practice...

But cool rant bro.

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:51 pm
by zsn
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:02 pm Again, if you were paying attention you'd have noticed in your 5seconds that what was being discussed were the rising costs of becoming a doctor and being a doctor. As in the costs doctors incur for running a private practice...
Yes, but also TDub said his sister wanted to have sexual relations with me for contradicting his theory that "The sue happy nature of this country has increased insurance costs for physicians to astronomical levels.". So twocoach is not incorrect in his rant. Jussayin'

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapse ... 8821e51517

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:33 pm
by Geezer
When I was a child nobody had health insurance and healthcare was affordable. Medical educations weren't prohibitively expensive, and the medical professionals didn't make a lot more than others.

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:48 pm
by DCHawk1
Geezer wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:33 pm When I was a child nobody had health insurance and healthcare was affordable. Medical educations weren't prohibitively expensive, and the medical professionals didn't make a lot more than others.
Doesn't cost that much to learn how to put leeches on people.


Seriously, though, our health insurance situation is a direct product of war-time wage and price policy, namely the Stabilization Act of 1942 and the Revenue Act of 1942. Wages were frozen, but fringe benefits could be offered and would NOT be taxed. Therefore, health insurance became THE lure for employees.

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:49 pm
by Deleted User 295
Learn something new everyday.

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:12 pm
by Deleted User 89
DCHawk1 wrote: Doesn't cost that much to learn how to put leeches on people.
i laughed

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:37 pm
by Shirley
zsn wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:51 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:02 pm Again, if you were paying attention you'd have noticed in your 5seconds that what was being discussed were the rising costs of becoming a doctor and being a doctor. As in the costs doctors incur for running a private practice...
Yes, but also TDub said his sister wanted to have sexual relations with me for contradicting his theory that "The sue happy nature of this country has increased insurance costs for physicians to astronomical levels.". So twocoach is not incorrect in his rant. Jussayin'

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapse ... 8821e51517
Thanks for posting the article.

During the fight over the passage of the ACA, I spent what seemed like years arguing that malpractice premiums did not play a large role in the total cost of medical care, but people against the ACA didn't care because they knew what they knew, and there was nothing you could do to convince them otherwise.

But then, what do I know?

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:38 pm
by TDub
zsn wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:51 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:02 pm Again, if you were paying attention you'd have noticed in your 5seconds that what was being discussed were the rising costs of becoming a doctor and being a doctor. As in the costs doctors incur for running a private practice...
Yes, but also TDub said his sister wanted to have sexual relations with me for contradicting his theory that "The sue happy nature of this country has increased insurance costs for physicians to astronomical levels.". So twocoach is not incorrect in his rant. Jussayin'

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapse ... 8821e51517
Nah, she has much better taste than to waste any time with someone who calls her a liar and acts like a holier than thou twat to anyone who has a different opinion than them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/23/upsh ... costs.html

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/p ... ity-system

https://www.nber.org/aginghealth/fall04/w10709.html

https://www.irmi.com/articles/expert-co ... ess-claims

https://www.irmi.com/articles/expert-co ... -insurance

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:48 pm
by TDub
And fuck you is different than they want to fuck you. But you know that, it just didnt play into your har dee har high larious condescending response

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:01 am
by twocoach
zsn wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:51 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:02 pm Again, if you were paying attention you'd have noticed in your 5seconds that what was being discussed were the rising costs of becoming a doctor and being a doctor. As in the costs doctors incur for running a private practice...
Yes, but also TDub said his sister wanted to have sexual relations with me for contradicting his theory that "The sue happy nature of this country has increased insurance costs for physicians to astronomical levels.". So twocoach is not incorrect in his rant. Jussayin'

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapse ... 8821e51517
He's so obsessed with hanging a zinger on me that he isnt even paying attention any more.

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:03 am
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:02 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:58 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:40 pm JFC....just arguing to argue with your select few targets.

You didn't even disagree with him. You just made some smart ass comment.

No wonder whenever I leave you become public enemy #1. You're a clown.
Why would I disagree with him? I do not have relevant I formation about the primary factors affecting rising insurance costs. In my 5 seconds of research right now, however, I have come across studies that do not support TDub's family opinions and instead cited growing population, aging seniors, disease prevalence/incidence, medical service utilization and service price & intensity as the drivers of rising costs. But hey, a sister ranting over Christmas dinner is probably a more reliable source. Not one of the studies I found mentioned litigation from the sue-happy folks as a driver in rising health insurance costs.
In my 5 seconds of reading your post right now I determined that you looked up the reasons for OUR Healthcare costs rising.

Again, if you were paying attention you'd have noticed in your 5seconds that what was being discussed were the rising costs of becoming a doctor and being a doctor. As in the costs doctors incur for running a private practice...

But cool rant bro.
Maybe you should take more than 5 seconds to read it next time.

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:18 am
by Deleted User 295
twocoach wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:01 am
zsn wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:51 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:02 pm Again, if you were paying attention you'd have noticed in your 5seconds that what was being discussed were the rising costs of becoming a doctor and being a doctor. As in the costs doctors incur for running a private practice...
Yes, but also TDub said his sister wanted to have sexual relations with me for contradicting his theory that "The sue happy nature of this country has increased insurance costs for physicians to astronomical levels.". So twocoach is not incorrect in his rant. Jussayin'

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapse ... 8821e51517
He's so obsessed with hanging a zinger on me that he isnt even paying attention any more.
Maybe...but you still haven't admitted you were talking about your/our rising health care costs, and not the high cost of becoming a doctor and operating a private practice.

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:22 am
by twocoach
Geezer wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:33 pm When I was a child nobody had health insurance and healthcare was affordable. Medical educations weren't prohibitively expensive, and the medical professionals didn't make a lot more than others.
And lots more people lived on farms, went to church, had white neighbors and lived in households with guns in them.

Things change from when people were kids.

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:34 am
by japhy
DCHawk1 wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:48 pm
Geezer wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:33 pm When I was a child nobody had health insurance and healthcare was affordable. Medical educations weren't prohibitively expensive, and the medical professionals didn't make a lot more than others.
Doesn't cost that much to learn how to put leeches on people.


Seriously, though, our health insurance situation is a direct product of war-time wage and price policy, namely the Stabilization Act of 1942 and the Revenue Act of 1942. Wages were frozen, but fringe benefits could be offered and would NOT be taxed. Therefore, health insurance became THE lure for employees.
Thanks professor, now tell us how decoupling employment and health insurance will be less disruptive to people's lives than universal healthcare? Tell me how this will be a positive for my business and to the economy?

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:19 am
by seahawk
Feral wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:37 pm
zsn wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:51 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:02 pm Again, if you were paying attention you'd have noticed in your 5seconds that what was being discussed were the rising costs of becoming a doctor and being a doctor. As in the costs doctors incur for running a private practice...
Yes, but also TDub said his sister wanted to have sexual relations with me for contradicting his theory that "The sue happy nature of this country has increased insurance costs for physicians to astronomical levels.". So twocoach is not incorrect in his rant. Jussayin'

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapse ... 8821e51517
Thanks for posting the article.

During the fight over the passage of the ACA, I spent what seemed like years arguing that malpractice premiums did not play a large role in the total cost of medical care, but people against the ACA didn't care because they knew what they knew, and there was nothing you could do to convince them otherwise.

But then, what do I know?
Even the countries with universal healthcare systems are struggling to pay the bills, even when the costs are lower than ours. What's happened to most developed countries is that we got old. Which is expensive.

And medicine got more complicated, more expensive, and more available, so we got even older.

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:06 pm
by Shirley
Looks like COVID-19 Czar Pence is going to scour the gulf coast for money, (everyone knows that money is filthy), in an effort to collect it so the public won't be at risk of infection by coming in contact with it. It's strictly a coincidence that he happens to be looking for money in Longboat Key, a very, very affluent area of Florida.


Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:16 pm
by Shirley

Re: So...wut now?

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:14 pm
by DCHawk1
You know what will cure coronavirus?


Tax cuts.


smgdmfh