Kansas Crimson

Walrus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:03 pm The sad thing is, they are diminishing the real racists by calling everything "racist". 2020 was the year the "feelz" took over.

Actually it’s a case of holding up a mirror and realizing that what thought people was acceptable really isn’t (cf. NASCAR) , and what people thought was unacceptable really was (cf. Mr Kaepernick).

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:20 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:03 pm The sad thing is, they are diminishing the real racists by calling everything "racist". 2020 was the year the "feelz" took over.

It really isn't. We're a big enough country that we can tackle this on multiple fronts. It only "diminishes" it in the eyes of people who refuse to admit that there is a problem in the first place.

^^^^^^

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/202 ... tests.html

Well now theyre knocking over George Washington statues.

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:49 am https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/202 ... tests.html

Well now theyre knocking over George Washington statues.

Auction it off to some super wealthy white person and donate the money to a program to help inner city kids. Honestly, whatever. Statues don't move my needle in any direction.

Hes a major reason why we have a country without a crown. I get destroying Confederate monuments but this is different.

At least Washington was conflicted about slavery, even if he did some despicable things to keep his slaves. Finding that Pennsylvania law would allow them to be freed while he was living as the 1st President in Philadelphia, he had Martha plan to take them back home to Virginia before the 6 months that would end in freedom were up. When one young woman walked away, he pursued her for 10 years, offering rewards and sending slave catchers after her, where she'd married and was living in NH. But, he did express his concerns about slavery throughout his adult life and he did sort of free them in his will.

And at least he's not like Jefferson, who needed to justify his slave owning by creating a racist screed in NOTES ON THE STATE OF VIRGINIA that would become the racists' bible. He also mortgaged all his slaves to the hilt, so they were sold on the lawn of Monticello after his death. He never freed the woman who was his mistress and bore his children. His daughter did that after his death.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:23 am

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:49 am https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/202 ... tests.html

Well now theyre knocking over George Washington statues.

Auction it off to some super wealthy white person and donate the money to a program to help inner city kids. Honestly, whatever. Statues don't move my needle in any direction.

How about dead Presidents faces on money? Might as well change those as well. And while we're at it maybe redesign the American flag since so many object to it.

dolomite wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:18 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:23 am

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:49 am https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/202 ... tests.html

Well now theyre knocking over George Washington statues.

Auction it off to some super wealthy white person and donate the money to a program to help inner city kids. Honestly, whatever. Statues don't move my needle in any direction.

How about dead Presidents faces on money? Might as well change those as well. And while we're at it maybe redesign the American flag since so many object to it.

The faces on money do get changed periodically and have for as long as the dollar has existed.

dolomite wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:18 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:23 am

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:49 am https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/202 ... tests.html

Well now theyre knocking over George Washington statues.

Auction it off to some super wealthy white person and donate the money to a program to help inner city kids. Honestly, whatever. Statues don't move my needle in any direction.

How about dead Presidents faces on money? Might as well change those as well. And while we're at it maybe redesign the American flag since so many object to it.

Wow, you are REALLY sensitive.

dolomite wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:18 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:23 am

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:49 am https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/202 ... tests.html

Well now theyre knocking over George Washington statues.

Auction it off to some super wealthy white person and donate the money to a program to help inner city kids. Honestly, whatever. Statues don't move my needle in any direction.

How about dead Presidents faces on money? Might as well change those as well. And while we're at it maybe redesign the American flag since so many object to it.

So dramatic.

lulz

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ja ... cane-laura

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:55 pm

dolomite wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:18 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:23 am
Auction it off to some super wealthy white person and donate the money to a program to help inner city kids. Honestly, whatever. Statues don't move my needle in any direction.

How about dead Presidents faces on money? Might as well change those as well. And while we're at it maybe redesign the American flag since so many object to it.

So dramatic.

Some people just don't like being reminded of slavery, i.e. when they see Presidents faces, I suppose?
That's just how it is these days for some people.

dolomite wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:40 pm
Some people just don't like being reminded of slavery

some people do?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:05 pm

dolomite wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:40 pm
Some people just don't like being reminded of slavery

some people do?

Apparently, yes. Otherwise there wouldn't have been a need to build these statues some 50+ years after the end of the Civil War.

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:34 pm

dolomite wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:18 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:23 am
Auction it off to some super wealthy white person and donate the money to a program to help inner city kids. Honestly, whatever. Statues don't move my needle in any direction.

How about dead Presidents faces on money? Might as well change those as well. And while we're at it maybe redesign the American flag since so many object to it.

Wow, you are REALLY sensitive.

You're back!

also part of me wonders how “in god we trust” ever endured any 1A challenges,

except...






Merica

IIRC, there was a challenge a few years ago and essentially it was ruled that the government really mean anything by it, and it not actually not considered establishment of religion. Can’t recall if it was Appeals court level or SCOTUS.

Our country has been a bad hypocritical joke since 1776. Several glaring contradictions between the DOI and the Constitution. Buy hey, of course it could be worse.
I say leave God in/on whatever you want but don't make anyone feel the need to say or believe in God unless they freely choose to do as such - and it should be all good. Right?
Why is it so difficult for EVERYONE to accept that way of thinking?

The founding fathers:

“All men are created equal lulz”