Kansas Crimson

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:53 pm

vega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:40 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:16 pm Matt Tait broke it down in his latest:

March 9: David tests positive. Out for Big 12 tourney, needs 10 days to join bubble in Indy (March 19, Friday). Enaruna out of Big 12 tournament b/c of contact tracing (David's roommate).

March 12: Jalen tests positive. Needs 10 days to join bubble in Indy (March 22, Monday).

March 14: Enaruna tests positive. Needs 10 days to join bubble in Indy (March 24, Wednesday).

So it's just 10 days after you test positive? Not a set number of negative tests? Seems...odd.

Assuming negative test per day, every day.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:16 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:13 pm TGF having a role this year was pretty predictable. I thought it would be a lot because of his NBA athleticism and a little bit because of COVID. Turns out, a lot because of COVID but had to have him all the same. Wish there would have been more time for him to get some clock.

Just going for devil’s advocate downer pity here, but I wonder what this team would have looked like with TGIF getting mire clock during that January loosing streak when everyone else was suddenly so cool with just standing around

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:15 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:16 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:13 pm TGF having a role this year was pretty predictable. I thought it would be a lot because of his NBA athleticism and a little bit because of COVID. Turns out, a lot because of COVID but had to have him all the same. Wish there would have been more time for him to get some clock.

Just going for devil’s advocate downer pity here, but I wonder what this team would have looked like with TGIF getting mire clock during that January loosing streak when everyone else was suddenly so cool with just standing around

Why is it more important for TGF to get clock than it is for our actual rotation players to get clock?

Self tried to give TGF clock and he was awful. There is more to basketball than being athletic. TGF was lost on offense, we couldn't run our full arsenal of plays. Self would have likely overlooked that, but he was equally lost on defense/defensive rotations. Self gave him a chance. Multiple chances.

It's so funny. We have a mediocre team by Kansas standards. We had a rough patch. We worked through it and ended up closing strong and getting a 3 seed. And people still think Self didn't do things right with rotations because they know more having watched zero practice minutes. Self knows when players mess up plays or are lost. We can't always see that from TV as easily.

CB Och Wilson MG and DMac all also benefit from game minutes together. So giving minutes to TGF for the hell of it costs someone higher on the depth chart those minutes. If TGF was better then he'd play more. The best players play the minutes. I trust that Self can identify his best players.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:15 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:16 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:13 pm TGF having a role this year was pretty predictable. I thought it would be a lot because of his NBA athleticism and a little bit because of COVID. Turns out, a lot because of COVID but had to have him all the same. Wish there would have been more time for him to get some clock.

Just going for devil’s advocate downer pity here, but I wonder what this team would have looked like with TGIF getting mire clock during that January loosing streak when everyone else was suddenly so cool with just standing around

Why is it more important for TGF to get clock than it is for our actual rotation players to get clock?

Self tried to give TGF clock and he was awful. There is more to basketball than being athletic. TGF was lost on offense, we couldn't run our full arsenal of plays. Self would have likely overlooked that, but he was equally lost on defense/defensive rotations. Self gave him a chance. Multiple chances.

It's so funny. We have a mediocre team by Kansas standards. We had a rough patch. We worked through it and ended up closing strong and getting a 3 seed. And people still think Self didn't do things right with rotations because they know more having watched zero practice minutes. Self knows when players mess up plays or are lost. We can't always see that from TV as easily.

CB Och Wilson MG and DMac all also benefit from game minutes together. So giving minutes to TGF for the hell of it costs someone higher on the depth chart those minutes. If TGF was better then he'd play more. The best players play the minutes. I trust that Self can identify his best players.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:40 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:24 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:21 pm

Marcus

Jalen

I don't recall Marcus at the 5, but perhaps he was. Obviously this all coincides with Bill's introduction into small ball.

Remember in 06-08 with Brush at the 4?

Those were some nasty lineups...then maybe some Travis/Teahaunkey at the 4 but more sparingly?

Then we had Wiggs who woulda been a monster at the 4 but hardly did it, I guess cuz Perry Ellis.

Fast forward to this year, when the roster was specifically built for small ball but still spent much of the season feeding the post anyway

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:32 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:40 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:24 pm

I don't recall Marcus at the 5, but perhaps he was. Obviously this all coincides with Bill's introduction into small ball.

Remember in 06-08 with Brush at the 4?

Those were some nasty lineups...then maybe some Travis/Teahaunkey at the 4 but more sparingly?

Then we had Wiggs who woulda been a monster at the 4 but hardly did it, I guess cuz Perry Ellis.

Fast forward to this year, when the roster was specifically built for small ball but still spent much of the season feeding the post anyway

Fuck yeah.

Russell Robinson
Sherron Collins
Mario Chalmers
Brandon Rush
Darrell arthur

that was probably the best lineups weve ever seen on the floor from a pure talent standpoint

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:23 am McCormack has landed in Indy and with the team.

InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:09 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:32 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:40 pm

Remember in 06-08 with Brush at the 4?

Those were some nasty lineups...then maybe some Travis/Teahaunkey at the 4 but more sparingly?

Then we had Wiggs who woulda been a monster at the 4 but hardly did it, I guess cuz Perry Ellis.

Fast forward to this year, when the roster was specifically built for small ball but still spent much of the season feeding the post anyway

Fuck yeah.

Russell Robinson
Sherron Collins
Mario Chalmers
Brandon Rush
Darrell arthur

that was probably the best lineups weve ever seen on the floor from a pure talent standpoint

Miles, Langford, Hinrich, Gooden, Collision, isn't anything to scoff at either.

InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:09 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:32 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:40 pm

Remember in 06-08 with Brush at the 4?

Those were some nasty lineups...then maybe some Travis/Teahaunkey at the 4 but more sparingly?

Then we had Wiggs who woulda been a monster at the 4 but hardly did it, I guess cuz Perry Ellis.

Fast forward to this year, when the roster was specifically built for small ball but still spent much of the season feeding the post anyway

Fuck yeah.

Russell Robinson
Sherron Collins
Mario Chalmers
Brandon Rush
Darrell arthur

that was probably the best lineups weve ever seen on the floor from a pure talent standpoint

Miles, Langford, Hinrich, Gooden, Collision, isn't anything to scoff at either.