Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:32 pm
Supervisor says the hold on Floyd should have been released at least 5 minutes before chauvin did, that he should have let up the moment Floyd was cuffed and complaint
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Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:34 pm
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:46 pm
I don't think anyone believes using his knee was a smart thing to do. The problem lies with the fact that the department trained them this way. The chief was also not white, so this wasn't racist training. Brutal training? Sure. If I had to predict what will happen, Chauvin gets manslaughter, and the rest get off.
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:51 pm
Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:46 pm I don't think anyone believes using his knee was a smart thing to do. The problem lies with the fact that the department trained them this way. The chief was also not white, so this wasn't racist training. Brutal training? Sure. If I had to predict what will happen, Chauvin gets manslaughter, and the rest get off.
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:24 pm Police captain, sergeant, supervisor testifying as well.
Chauvin’s supervisor says the policy cops are trained to do is to lay a restrained person on their side in the “hobble position,” so they can breathe easier without complications, even if officers still have to put their weight on the guy
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:55 pm
Maybe that's what they say now, but their past shows a different picture...
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:03 pm
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:30 pm
Chauvin knew Floyd was dying. He fucking knew.
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:34 pm
The problem is, a picture is worth a thousand words. And besides, Floyd was not the only person to die from this training. No one is arguing that the training was the correct approach, but it wasn't anything new at the time. I'm glad to see them overhaul the way they do things -- it's been long overdue. Police brutality has been a real issue.
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:38 pm
if a picture is worth a thousand words, then how much is a 9 minute video worth?
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:40 pm
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:47 pm
I saw one op-ed somewhere the other day that suggested one of the ways to most effectively reform policing is to hold the police responsible for paying settlements. Make it come out of their own budgets, rather than making taxpayers foot the bill.
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:52 pm
they’d all go broke
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:25 pm
I know you are the resident expert on all things. But let me share a whole shit ton of training and real world experience.Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:34 pm The problem is, a picture is worth a thousand words. And besides, Floyd was not the only person to die from this training. No one is arguing that the training was the correct approach, but it wasn't anything new at the time. I'm glad to see them overhaul the way they do things -- it's been long overdue. Police brutality has been a real issue.
Numerous techniques for take down and restraint exist AND are accepted as safe.
Some are indeed uncomfortable, even painful to the recipient.
Nothing, and let me be perfectly clear here, NOTHING is an acceptable restraint for an offender who is under control and in restraints. That has never NOT been the case.
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:29 pm
Never said I was resident expert on all things. Some things, yes. Am I an expert on KU basketball? Not really. Am I an expert on cooking? No.
I know you work in some kind of security job (or similar) right? I want to be perfectly clear when I say I do not condone putting a knee on someone's neck. I think it's a stupid way to handle that situation. My points are not based on that at all. My points have to do with the problems of the training and also that racism doesn't appear to have played a part in it.
I know you work in some kind of security job (or similar) right? I want to be perfectly clear when I say I do not condone putting a knee on someone's neck. I think it's a stupid way to handle that situation. My points are not based on that at all. My points have to do with the problems of the training and also that racism doesn't appear to have played a part in it.
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:34 pm
please, lobs, regale us on the subjects of which you have expertise...just for future reference
edit: and being a master youtube surfer doesn’t quite qualify
edit: and being a master youtube surfer doesn’t quite qualify
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:36 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:34 pm please, lobs, regale us on the subjects of which you have expertise...just for future reference
edit: and being a master youtube surfer doesn’t quite qualify
Scamming family members on PPE sales.
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:37 pm
well, of courseCascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:36 pmTraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:34 pm please, lobs, regale us on the subjects of which you have expertise...just for future reference
edit: and being a master youtube surfer doesn’t quite qualify
Scamming family members on PPE sales.
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:00 pm
You wouldn't believe me if I told you, so what's the point? 
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:00 pm
Yeah, I was a security guard at Radio Shack.Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:29 pm Never said I was resident expert on all things. Some things, yes. Am I an expert on KU basketball? Not really. Am I an expert on cooking? No.
I know you work in some kind of security job (or similar) right? I want to be perfectly clear when I say I do not condone putting a knee on someone's neck. I think it's a stupid way to handle that situation. My points are not based on that at all. My points have to do with the problems of the training and also that racism doesn't appear to have played a part in it.
And, your ignorance on all subjects should clear you of pretending that racism isn't playing a huge part in these crimes.
Re: Would you be on the Jury?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:01 pm