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Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:14 am
by NewtonHawk11
West Va 21!?

They're freaking 12-8 and 2-6 in conference play. Have played home against Baylor, KU, Texas and TCU and went 1-3 against those teams. Goodness. What are we doing here?

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:21 am
by Deleted User 863
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:14 am West Va 21!?

They're freaking 12-8 and 2-6 in conference play. Have played home against Baylor, KU, Texas and TCU and went 1-3 against those teams. Goodness. What are we doing here?
Wonder if the big12 teams get a an advantage within the formulas because we have a small conference and play everyone twice?

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:36 am
by pdub
Well, yes, but only if all teams in said conference are decent to elite.
If you have two or three bottom feeders, like other conferences do, that would f things up, but we don't.
( i.e. a Nebraska or Mississippi )

In West Virginia's particular case, they have one of the worst Luck rankings in Kenpom, meaning if you look at their strength of schedule and compare it to their points for and against, they should statistically have a better record than they have. This is probably bolstered from a few close looses to some good B12 teams.

I've always said the NCAA tournament is not the greatest at determining the best team but is the most entertaining. In the past, the JimWest's of the world would chuckle at the B12 not doing well in the tournament, which was all sorts of eye roll for me. Now he has no legs to stand on as there have been B12 teams in every Final Four since 2018 and two ( three ) champions.

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:34 pm
by Deleted User 863
3 champions?

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:51 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
1 NCAA Champion
1 NCAA Champion*
1 AP Title Winner

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:58 pm
by pdub
^^^^

Illy is foaming at the mouth.

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:15 pm
by Deleted User 863
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:51 pm 1 AP Title Winner
Gotcha. I am not familiar with that one.

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:56 pm
by TDub
Texas Tech shouldve won that Title too

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:05 pm
by pdub
Another example of frame by frame slow motion instant replay out of control.

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:22 pm
by pdub
KU 8
ksu 7

Top 10 matchup tomorrow.

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:37 pm
by NewtonHawk11
On ESPN+. YAYAYAYAYAYA

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:41 pm
by ousdahl
Top 10 matchup on the plus lol.

I guess that’s cuz when they schedule these things, the kitties were still perceived as a dumpster fire?

I’m still not convinced they’re actually as good as their ranking suggests tho.

Also when was the last time KU looses a game but goes up in the rankings the next week?

Normally that treatment is only reserved for teams that loose to KU, not the other way around

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:56 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:41 pmI’m still not convinced they’re actually as good as their ranking suggests tho.
Kansas State (+7) @ Kansas

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:04 pm
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:56 pm
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:41 pmI’m still not convinced they’re actually as good as their ranking suggests tho.
Kansas State (+7) @ Kansas
God that's a big number.

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:08 pm
by NewtonHawk11
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:56 pm
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:41 pmI’m still not convinced they’re actually as good as their ranking suggests tho.
Kansas State (+7) @ Kansas
Goodness that is a massive line. (I think kstate covers)

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:08 pm
by ousdahl
It just feels weird thinking the kitties with a brand new coach are gonna end up like a 2 or 3 seed.

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:09 pm
by NewtonHawk11
I mean, he basically flipped that entire roster.

CBB is much easier to have a season like this compared to any other collegiate sport. You really need about 7 damn good players and you'll be fine. He kept Nowell and that was about it and everybody else is new.

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:13 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
jfish26 wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:04 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:56 pm
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:41 pmI’m still not convinced they’re actually as good as their ranking suggests tho.
Kansas State (+7) @ Kansas
God that's a big number.
I would have said that KU -5 sounds right. I think we're a couple points better on a neutral floor.

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:15 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:09 pm I mean, he basically flipped that entire roster.

CBB is much easier to have a season like this compared to any other collegiate sport. You really need about 7 damn good players and you'll be fine. He kept Nowell and that was about it and everybody else is new.
You also have 350 teams to choose from to make a cupcake noncon to help develop your players.

Re: AP/KenPom 22-23

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:19 pm
by pdub
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:08 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:56 pm
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:41 pmI’m still not convinced they’re actually as good as their ranking suggests tho.
Kansas State (+7) @ Kansas
Goodness that is a massive line. (I think kstate covers)
I don't.
I'm going KU in a classic kitties beatdown.