Kansas Crimson

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:00 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:32 am

hasbeen wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:24 am

lol lmao

One of the more depressing macro things is seeing just how EFFECTIVE fear-mongering is...migrant caravans this, crime-infested cities that, drag-show-grooming the other thing.

It's the same playbook, over and over and over.

And why not? It works.

This is insane to hear the "terrified of covid" crowd talk about fear mongering being effective. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black

Its a wasteful spending issue not a fear issue, the American people are severely overtaxed. Have you seen any government spending bills? They are wasteful and dishonest. And our government continues to increase taxing. With increases to the irs budget they are spending more American dollars on the department so they can claim/pursue even MORE American tax dollars and it is absolutely disgusting

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:00 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:32 am

hasbeen wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:24 am

lol lmao

One of the more depressing macro things is seeing just how EFFECTIVE fear-mongering is...migrant caravans this, crime-infested cities that, drag-show-grooming the other thing.

It's the same playbook, over and over and over.

And why not? It works.

This is insane to hear the "terrified of covid" crowd talk about fear mongering being effective. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black

Its a wasteful spending issue not a fear issue, the American people are severely overtaxed. Have you seen any government spending bills? They are wasteful and dishonest. And our government continues to increase taxing. With increases to the irs budget they are spending more American dollars on the department so they can claim/pursue even MORE American tax dollars and it is absolutely disgusting

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:18 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:00 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:32 am

One of the more depressing macro things is seeing just how EFFECTIVE fear-mongering is...migrant caravans this, crime-infested cities that, drag-show-grooming the other thing.

It's the same playbook, over and over and over.

And why not? It works.

This is insane to hear the "terrified of covid" crowd talk about fear mongering being effective. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black

Its a wasteful spending issue not a fear issue, the American people are severely overtaxed. Have you seen any government spending bills? They are wasteful and dishonest. And our government continues to increase taxing. With increases to the irs budget they are spending more American dollars on the department so they can claim/pursue even MORE American tax dollars and it is absolutely disgusting

You should do some research on all of these concerns you have. The IRS is increasing their budget so that they can work through the huge backlog of tax returns they have. This is will not only allow them to properly collect the tax money that is OWED BY American taxpayers but also allow them to get returns that are OWED TO American taxpayers. Increasing the IRS budget does nothing to increase the amount or percentage of taxes paid by Americans.

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:00 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:32 am

hasbeen wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:24 am

lol lmao

One of the more depressing macro things is seeing just how EFFECTIVE fear-mongering is...migrant caravans this, crime-infested cities that, drag-show-grooming the other thing.

It's the same playbook, over and over and over.

And why not? It works.

This is insane to hear the "terrified of covid" crowd talk about fear mongering being effective. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black

Its a wasteful spending issue not a fear issue, the American people are severely overtaxed. Have you seen any government spending bills? They are wasteful and dishonest. And our government continues to increase taxing. With increases to the irs budget they are spending more American dollars on the department so they can claim/pursue even MORE American tax dollars and it is absolutely disgusting

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:28 am https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... 6/fulltext

Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13·7–15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95% Crl 19·1–20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during the first year of COVID-19 vaccination. In COVAX Advance Market Commitment countries, we estimated that 41% of excess mortality (7·4 million [95% Crl 6·8–7·7] of 17·9 million deaths) was averted. In low-income countries, we estimated that an additional 45% (95% CrI 42–49) of deaths could have been averted had the 20% vaccination coverage target set by COVAX been met by each country, and that an additional 111% (105–118) of deaths could have been averted had the 40% target set by WHO been met by each country by the end of 2021.

but i guess we should just take randy’s word as truth

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:34 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:28 am https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... 6/fulltext

Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13·7–15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95% Crl 19·1–20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during the first year of COVID-19 vaccination. In COVAX Advance Market Commitment countries, we estimated that 41% of excess mortality (7·4 million [95% Crl 6·8–7·7] of 17·9 million deaths) was averted. In low-income countries, we estimated that an additional 45% (95% CrI 42–49) of deaths could have been averted had the 20% vaccination coverage target set by COVAX been met by each country, and that an additional 111% (105–118) of deaths could have been averted had the 40% target set by WHO been met by each country by the end of 2021.

but i guess we should just take randy’s word as truth

The fact that some people don't recognize how many lives were saved by the covid vaccines just confirms to me that ignorance is sometimes simply a choice. I feel bad for the people who simply do not have the natural intelligence to understand concepts that are higher than the most basic levels but people who choose ignorance just baffle me. That politics has so wholly taken over people lives that they can resort to spouting clearly ignorant statements just to support their political leanings just shows me that this isn't a problem that is going to improve over time.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:34 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:28 am https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... 6/fulltext

Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13·7–15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95% Crl 19·1–20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during the first year of COVID-19 vaccination. In COVAX Advance Market Commitment countries, we estimated that 41% of excess mortality (7·4 million [95% Crl 6·8–7·7] of 17·9 million deaths) was averted. In low-income countries, we estimated that an additional 45% (95% CrI 42–49) of deaths could have been averted had the 20% vaccination coverage target set by COVAX been met by each country, and that an additional 111% (105–118) of deaths could have been averted had the 40% target set by WHO been met by each country by the end of 2021.

but i guess we should just take randy’s word as truth

The fact that some people don't recognize how many lives were saved by the covid vaccines just confirms to me that ignorance is sometimes simply a choice. I feel bad for the people who simply do not have the natural intelligence to understand concepts that are higher than the most basic levels but people who choose ignorance just baffle me. That politics has so wholly taken over people lives that they can resort to spouting clearly ignorant statements just to support their political leanings just shows me that this isn't a problem that is going to improve over time.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:33 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:18 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:00 am

This is insane to hear the "terrified of covid" crowd talk about fear mongering being effective. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black

Its a wasteful spending issue not a fear issue, the American people are severely overtaxed. Have you seen any government spending bills? They are wasteful and dishonest. And our government continues to increase taxing. With increases to the irs budget they are spending more American dollars on the department so they can claim/pursue even MORE American tax dollars and it is absolutely disgusting

You should do some research on all of these concerns you have. The IRS is increasing their budget so that they can work through the huge backlog of tax returns they have. This is will not only allow them to properly collect the tax money that is OWED BY American taxpayers but also allow them to get returns that are OWED TO American taxpayers. Increasing the IRS budget does nothing to increase the amount or percentage of taxes paid by Americans.

I think there are reasonable discussions to be had on government spending, generally, and how it is considered/approved, specifically.

I think there are ALSO reasonable discussions to be had on tax policy, generally, and what we incentivize (or not), specifically.

But the fact is that the system presently IS set up to put a much higher effective tax burden on income earners, as opposed to wealth accumulators. There absolutely ARE good reasons not to "punish" the accumulation of wealth. But the net-net of encouraging it, as we do, is that the gap in tax revenue arising out of pro-wealth-accumulation policy...falls on income earners.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:37 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:34 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:28 am https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... 6/fulltext

Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13·7–15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95% Crl 19·1–20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during the first year of COVID-19 vaccination. In COVAX Advance Market Commitment countries, we estimated that 41% of excess mortality (7·4 million [95% Crl 6·8–7·7] of 17·9 million deaths) was averted. In low-income countries, we estimated that an additional 45% (95% CrI 42–49) of deaths could have been averted had the 20% vaccination coverage target set by COVAX been met by each country, and that an additional 111% (105–118) of deaths could have been averted had the 40% target set by WHO been met by each country by the end of 2021.

but i guess we should just take randy’s word as truth

The fact that some people don't recognize how many lives were saved by the covid vaccines just confirms to me that ignorance is sometimes simply a choice. I feel bad for the people who simply do not have the natural intelligence to understand concepts that are higher than the most basic levels but people who choose ignorance just baffle me. That politics has so wholly taken over people lives that they can resort to spouting clearly ignorant statements just to support their political leanings just shows me that this isn't a problem that is going to improve over time.

the two of them intentionally misrepresent the situation and cherry pick data points/anecdotes that fit their narrative…not just on covid, as this thread shows

zsn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:38 am Heard versions of this and also shared here before: “Covid is not just a public health issue. It’s also an intelligence test”

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:18 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:00 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:32 am

One of the more depressing macro things is seeing just how EFFECTIVE fear-mongering is...migrant caravans this, crime-infested cities that, drag-show-grooming the other thing.

It's the same playbook, over and over and over.

And why not? It works.

This is insane to hear the "terrified of covid" crowd talk about fear mongering being effective. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black

Its a wasteful spending issue not a fear issue, the American people are severely overtaxed. Have you seen any government spending bills? They are wasteful and dishonest. And our government continues to increase taxing. With increases to the irs budget they are spending more American dollars on the department so they can claim/pursue even MORE American tax dollars and it is absolutely disgusting

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insider/20 ... e7b2964812

You should do some research on all of these concerns you have. The IRS is increasing their budget so that they can work through the huge backlog of tax returns they have. It will be used to bring the amount of agents back up to previous levels, bring technology up to something remotely resembling a competent level and bring call center staff up to levels where they can actually handle the volume of taxpayer questions in a more timely manner. This is will not only allow them to properly collect the tax money that is OWED BY American taxpayers but also allow them to get returns that are OWED TO American taxpayers. Increasing the IRS budget does nothing to increase the amount or percentage of taxes paid by Americans.

At least try to educate yourself on the things you claim instead of just parroting the fearmongering ignorance of the GOP.

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:52 am
The whole "benefits out weigh the risks" argument is the dumbest argument. Because most people don't need any benefits from vaccines. As we have known all along. Nearly all (99%) survive covid, and most have mild symptoms or no symptoms. Its been that way all along, since the very beginning

StayCurious wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:13 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:52 am
The whole "benefits out weigh the risks" argument is the dumbest argument. Because most people don't need any benefits from vaccines. As we have known all along. Nearly all (99%) survive covid, and most have mild symptoms or no symptoms. Its been that way all along, since the very beginning

The benefits outweigh the risks, unless of course, you're one of the unlucky ones like this girl. No one on this site has ever expressed any care about these people who are permanently disabled because of these shots. Hell, some on here still are lying by stating the vaccines are "safe for everyone." This young woman had her whole life ahead of her.

https://www.realnotrare.com/post/olivia-c-19-yrs-old