Kansas Crimson

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:30 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:11 am Our portal needs: a big 6'8ish wing that can shoot and play multiple positions

And a dynamic quick scoring guard to take the pressure of dajuan who shoots well from 3

We might get that 6'8" wing from the recruiting class vs. the portal.

https://247sports.com/player/liam-mcneeley-46103856/

Back2Lawrence wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:20 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:15 am

Back2Lawrence wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:00 am Our needs: a clear leader on the court, a group that doesn't seem to fold to adversity, shooter(s), proper defensive positioning (bbiq?), less me and more us from it's best player.

That's a start.

My opinion - and it's just that of course - is that things like these are largely solved by winning, which is solved by talent (which we don't have) and coaching (which we do).

You can dismiss this if you need to, but I haven't liked HD from day one (before, as I didn't like him when he was at UM). I disliked the Morris twins for similar but different reasons when they were here. I'm not a fan of me first players, which he seems to be most of the time. Sure, without him this season, we'd probably be under .500 (weird), but I'd rather pull the bandaid off than have to look at the scar of his time here as something I celebrated.

That said, sure, get your shoulder back to 100% so you can jump six inches off court, dominate inside offensively at 7'2" and get us to the second weekend.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:34 am JFish thinks HD is unfairly judged.
But there's a pattern of dislike...smoke/fire deal.
I would also like to pull the 'diamond earring'd put my arm between my legs when I hit my first three after shooting sub 30% from there in conference even though we're loosing by 8 points' bandaid off.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:44 am Here’s where I am with Dajuan, and this prob applies to other doods too:

If we need to complement Dajuan with superior talents 2-5 including/and (and/or?) another guard to make sure a Dajuan-led team isn’t 2024 levels of suck…why even bother building around a dood like that in the first place?

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:48 am

Back2Lawrence wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:20 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:15 am

My opinion - and it's just that of course - is that things like these are largely solved by winning, which is solved by talent (which we don't have) and coaching (which we do).

You can dismiss this if you need to, but I haven't liked HD from day one (before, as I didn't like him when he was at UM). I disliked the Morris twins for similar but different reasons when they were here. I'm not a fan of me first players, which he seems to be most of the time. Sure, without him this season, we'd probably be under .500 (weird), but I'd rather pull the bandaid off than have to look at the scar of his time here as something I celebrated.

That said, sure, get your shoulder back to 100% so you can jump six inches off court, dominate inside offensively at 7'2" and get us to the second weekend.

This is sort of what I'm saying though - we've had lots and lots and lots of guys that fans have found unlikeable for various reasons. When we're winning, those things have tended to recede to the background.

I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing or any particular place in between - just saying that you hear a hell of a lot less about this stuff (across all sports) on teams that win, which suggests (to me anyway) that the root issue isn't a chemistry/effort/heart issue, but a winning issue.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:18 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:48 am

Back2Lawrence wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:20 am

You can dismiss this if you need to, but I haven't liked HD from day one (before, as I didn't like him when he was at UM). I disliked the Morris twins for similar but different reasons when they were here. I'm not a fan of me first players, which he seems to be most of the time. Sure, without him this season, we'd probably be under .500 (weird), but I'd rather pull the bandaid off than have to look at the scar of his time here as something I celebrated.

That said, sure, get your shoulder back to 100% so you can jump six inches off court, dominate inside offensively at 7'2" and get us to the second weekend.

This is sort of what I'm saying though - we've had lots and lots and lots of guys that fans have found unlikeable for various reasons. When we're winning, those things have tended to recede to the background.

I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing or any particular place in between - just saying that you hear a hell of a lot less about this stuff (across all sports) on teams that win, which suggests (to me anyway) that the root issue isn't a chemistry/effort/heart issue, but a winning issue.

This just isn't true for everyone.
Chiefs were winning but I couldn't stand Tyreek.
I understood how incredible of a player he was and that he made our team better but now that he's gone, liking the Chiefs is that much easier.

Or you don't have to go outside of KUBB to be honest or that far in the past.
Case in point, Remy.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:55 pm "...because likeability is personal and subjective."

Certainly.
But there should easily be clarity on why someone would go, "I don't like Hunter Dickinson" in 2024 compared to say "I like Ochai Agbaji" after 2021 before the title ( despite oof 2019, cheated out of 2020 and oof 2021 ).

Not really a leap here.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:18 pm Ousdahl said CB had low ceiling.

Still makes me laugh.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:19 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:18 pm Ousdahl said CB had low ceiling.

Still makes me laugh.

I was talking with, we'll say, an old friend about this stuff.

From his first few games on the floor, CB had what Elmarko - at least in terms of what he's shown here on the floor - does not. His instincts (BBIQ) were just off the goddamn charts, and it was IMMEDIATELY obvious.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:18 pm Ousdahl said CB had low ceiling.

Still makes me laugh every time I watch CB in the NBA playing well.

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:31 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:18 pm Ousdahl said CB had low ceiling.

Still makes me laugh every time I watch CB in the NBA playing well.

Lol good call ous

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:25 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:19 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:18 pm Ousdahl said CB had low ceiling.

Still makes me laugh.

I was talking with, we'll say, an old friend about this stuff.

From his first few games on the floor, CB had what Elmarko - at least in terms of what he's shown here on the floor - does not. His instincts (BBIQ) were just off the goddamn charts, and it was IMMEDIATELY obvious.

Agree.

And a career 38% 3pt shooter.

His competitive streak is allowing him to excel in the NBA.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:16 pm On the floor, Christian Braun did even more of Hunter's shit than Hunter does. But he is not reviled by our own fans the way that Hunter is - despite Hunter even being objectively the much better player.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:46 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:16 pm On the floor, Christian Braun did even more of Hunter's shit than Hunter does. But he is not reviled by our own fans the way that Hunter is - despite Hunter even being objectively the much better player.

If you read his lips he’s saying, “I’m a good keed with no ink and I looove being a Certified Amateur”