Kansas Crimson

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 4:58 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 4:53 pm

surly wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 4:41 pm

Love that you give Jordan credit for everything that happened for the bulls dynasty

While lebron carried multiple struggling franchises to championships

Completely different situations

Hate that it seems you are too ignorant to realize LeBron won championships with as much if not more talent than Jordan had on his teams when he won his championships.

Nobody wins titles without other good players lol. The bulls, in their era, were a far better assembled team that anything lebron has been on.

Best evidence Jordan's legacy benefited from playing on a dynasty team:

When Jordan left after the 3 peat, his team won 57 games without him. When lebron left Cleveland and Miami, they barely won 20 games

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 5:03 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 4:58 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 4:53 pm

Love that you give Jordan credit for everything that happened for the bulls dynasty

While lebron carried multiple struggling franchises to championships

Completely different situations

Hate that it seems you are too ignorant to realize LeBron won championships with as much if not more talent than Jordan had on his teams when he won his championships.

Nobody wins titles without other good players lol. The bulls, in their era, were a far better assembled team that anything lebron has been on.

Best evidence Jordan's legacy benefited from playing on a dynasty team:

When Jordan left after the 3 peat, his team won 57 games without him. When lebron left Cleveland and Miami, they barely won 20 games

Of course Jordan's legacy benefitted from playing on a dynasty team - just as part of LeBron's legacy benefited from him jumping from team to team to play with better players than he previously played with. Right?

Jordan was on "far better" assembled teams? I don't know about that.
LeBron was assembled with Wade as well as Bosh and Allen.
He was assembled with Kyrie in his prime, Love, Smith and Jones.
He was assembled with Davis, Kuzma, Green, Rondo, Howard, etc.
You act like he played with garbage.

Yes, when Jordan left the Bulls in 93 they won 57 the next season. Now tell us what happened when he left in 98.
The Bulls were 13-37. The next season they were 17-65.
Of course a lot of that had to do with the other players who left.

LeBron left the Heat in 2014. They were 54-28 his last season there and then the next season they went 37-45. Not "barely won 20 games".
Do you realize Wade missed 20 games and Bosh missed 30+ games that season?

LeBron left Cleveland in 2018. They were 50-32 in his last season there. Yes, the next season they went a miserable 19-63 but let's realize Wade was gone. Love only played 22 games for that team. Smith only played 11. Hill only played 13. Etc., etc.

Vintage harden performance

love him or hate him, you gotta admit...Marcus Smart's hair is pretty cool.

it makes him look like a medieval warrior.

Im suddenly rooting for a Nuggets vs Philly finals. Obviously cause of embiid, and I'd rather see Denver than phoenix la or Golden state

Plus jokic vs embiid in the finals would be amazing

Braun's last season at KU he wins it all. His first season in NBA and he is on course to make NBA Finals on a favorite.

japhy wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 11:27 pm Braun's last season at KU he wins it all. His first season in NBA and he is on course to make NBA Finals on a favorite.

Dude was the most valuable player on the court last night. According to +/-.

I didn’t catch the games but not the start I’d have liked—loosing at home to the Embiidless sixers.

Boston sports are reeling.

Pretty damn funny

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 12:15 pm Pretty damn funny

Pretty damn ignorant according to some/many current and former NBA players. Hey, everyone has an asshole. Meaning, opinions are like assholes.

Grizz were in TTP mode and things were looking good. Possibly too good in hindsight.
Now Kleiman is in damage control mode. Will be interesting to see what becomes of the West.
I suppose I wasn't paying attention, and I admit I am not too knowledgeable about the NBA, because I didn't think the Nuggets, Grizz, and Kings would have as much success as they are having - so quickly.

There was nothing quick about the nuggets grizzlies or kings success. All 3 have had their cores intact for multiple seasons. And been building on that success

Dumping dillon brooks is a knee jerk reaction though. Hes been a part of their core for a bit, even though he's a role player who's very replaceable. But basically he started running his mouth, didn't back it up, and has been tucking tail and hiding from the media

Isiah Thomas recalls something bitter rival Kevin McHale told him after finally getting past the Celtics and advancing to the NBA Finals

Thibodeau looks like a damn hemorrhoid

A lot of dudes with grey hair.

Im sure there are a quite few posters here praying that the Lakers don’t get to the Finals.

I don’t think they have the depth to do it ( I actually think the Warriors win in 6 or 7 ) but if LeBron gets another ring, oh boy.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 8:51 am Im sure there are a quite few posters here praying that the Lakers don’t get to the Finals.

I don’t think they have the depth to do it ( I actually think the Warriors win in 6 or 7 ) but if LeBron gets another ring, oh boy.

Nobody has a chance against the nuggets. Lakers might actually end up beating the warriors, steph klay and Poole combined for 18 threes last night and they still couldn't win. But Lakers warriors will be a good series

If LeBron gets another ring we will never hear the end of it from the bron lovers. Which is fine I guess, I'm sick of so many people viewing Jordan as a step above the rest. Jordan was great sure, but so were a lot of other people

From what I have been told, many in the NBA feel the Lakers are/should be the favorites to win the championship. I think they will, if they stay healthy. That's a HUGE if.

As far as LeBron, fair or not, I feel another championship wouldn't be much more for his legacy other than icing/gravy. I say that being..... The guy should always be considered in the GOAT conversation no matter if his current team loses to the Warriors, in the Western Finals, or in the NBA Finals - and if people like him or not.

Nuggs might contend, too.

Didn’t they loose Jamal Murray at a key time last playoffs or something?