Kansas Crimson

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:48 pm**

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:56 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:54 pm If ron paul would have won the white house a couple decades ago, this place would be a drastically better country
I voted for him that year. Solid candidate.

"That year"? You know he ran for President more than once. Right?

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:50 pm**

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:56 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:57 pm As a general matter, you should be highly skeptical of anyone who preaches austerity and yet would not suffer from it! Jump in the fucking pool with me, or don't tell me it's not that cold.
How is that different from Brandon and Giggles telling us that inflation isn’t a thing and be thankful we’re not Argentina when they haven’t paid for a gallon of milk or gas in years?

Inflation is down below 2.5% now. And your last part is solely an echo of the claim against Trump and not based in reality. I would bet that Harris, who does a lot of cooking, knows her way around a grocery store just fine.

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:51 pm**

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:51 am
JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:17 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:51 pm I have no idea why anyone is supporting these clowns. They aren't even pretending to want to actually make things better for us.
Exactly! I’m glad you’re finally seeing Giggles and Tampon Tim for who they are.
Under Trump, my taxes will go up.

Under Trump, my expenses on everyday items will go up thanks to his absurd tariffs.

Under Trump, my family's prescription costs will rise.

Under Trump, my sister will be kicked off her health insurance.

Under Trump, my preexisting condition will result in my impending medical expenses related to it to rise greatly.

Under Trump, it will cost me more at the grocery store and when I do home repairs when he deports loads of immigrants.

Under Trump, my two daughters will have white male politicians making medical decisions for them.

Sorry, but Trump isn't planning on doing ANYTHING that will benefit me.

Everything you mentioned I would be against too.
Problem/good thing is many of those things wouldn't/won't happen.
If you believe they will, then you must believe everything Kamala has pledged will/would happen too if she becomes President. Of course not everything will/would.

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:54 pm**

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:47 pm Liberals cried racism way too much it lost it's meaning

Ron paul hates big government, not people

I agree Liberals cried/cry racism way too much - just as I would agree if you said Conservatives ignore/d down play/ed racism way too much.

Ron Paul hates or at least hated a lot of people. He is or at least was a racist fuck.

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:55 pm**

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:51 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:51 am
JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:17 pm

Exactly! I’m glad you’re finally seeing Giggles and Tampon Tim for who they are.
Under Trump, my taxes will go up.

Under Trump, my expenses on everyday items will go up thanks to his absurd tariffs.

Under Trump, my family's prescription costs will rise.

Under Trump, my sister will be kicked off her health insurance.

Under Trump, my preexisting condition will result in my impending medical expenses related to it to rise greatly.

Under Trump, it will cost me more at the grocery store and when I do home repairs when he deports loads of immigrants.

Under Trump, my two daughters will have white male politicians making medical decisions for them.

Sorry, but Trump isn't planning on doing ANYTHING that will benefit me.
Everything you mentioned I would be against too.
Problem/good thing is many of those things wouldn't/won't happen.
If you believe they will, then you must believe everything Kamala has pledged will/would happen too if she becomes President. Of course not everything will/would.

Well no shit. But before an election, we have no choice but to assume that the policies put forth by candidates will be enacted one way or the other. What policy that Trump has proposed would, IF ENACTED, help me personally in any way that would make a direct difference in my life?

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:59 pm**

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:50 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:56 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:57 pm As a general matter, you should be highly skeptical of anyone who preaches austerity and yet would not suffer from it! Jump in the fucking pool with me, or don't tell me it's not that cold.
How is that different from Brandon and Giggles telling us that inflation isn’t a thing and be thankful we’re not Argentina when they haven’t paid for a gallon of milk or gas in years?
Inflation is down below 2.5% now. And your last part is solely an echo of the claim against Trump and not based in reality. I would bet that Harris, who does a lot of cooking, knows her way around a grocery store just fine.

Lulz. She was raised middle class. I’m sure they have people who do the shopping for them.

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:01 pm**

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:48 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:56 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:54 pm If ron paul would have won the white house a couple decades ago, this place would be a drastically better country
I voted for him that year. Solid candidate.
"That year"? You know he ran for President more than once. Right?

Sure. I think it was ‘08 when he ran against McCain for the Republican nomination. I couldn’t stand McCain, so I voted for Paul in the general election, too.

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:01 pm**

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:55 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:51 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:51 am
Under Trump, my taxes will go up.

Under Trump, my expenses on everyday items will go up thanks to his absurd tariffs.

Under Trump, my family's prescription costs will rise.

Under Trump, my sister will be kicked off her health insurance.

Under Trump, my preexisting condition will result in my impending medical expenses related to it to rise greatly.

Under Trump, it will cost me more at the grocery store and when I do home repairs when he deports loads of immigrants.

Under Trump, my two daughters will have white male politicians making medical decisions for them.

Sorry, but Trump isn't planning on doing ANYTHING that will benefit me.
Everything you mentioned I would be against too.
Problem/good thing is many of those things wouldn't/won't happen.
If you believe they will, then you must believe everything Kamala has pledged will/would happen too if she becomes President. Of course not everything will/would.
Well no shit. But before an election, we have no choice but to assume that the policies put forth by candidates will be enacted one way or the other. What policy that Trump has proposed would, IF ENACTED, help me personally in any way that would make a direct difference in my life?

Only you can answer that. If you tell me there is not a single thing - I believe you.
Like I said, everything you mentioned I would be against too.

As I said this morning, I'm probably not voting for President because I simply don't want either Kamala or Donald to be my President.

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:34 pm**

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:01 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:55 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:51 pm

Everything you mentioned I would be against too.
Problem/good thing is many of those things wouldn't/won't happen.
If you believe they will, then you must believe everything Kamala has pledged will/would happen too if she becomes President. Of course not everything will/would.
Well no shit. But before an election, we have no choice but to assume that the policies put forth by candidates will be enacted one way or the other. What policy that Trump has proposed would, IF ENACTED, help me personally in any way that would make a direct difference in my life?
As I said this morning, I'm probably not voting for President because I simply don't want either Kamala or Donald to be my President.

You have made this abundantly clear…for weeks.

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:38 pm**

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:01 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:55 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:51 pm

Everything you mentioned I would be against too.
Problem/good thing is many of those things wouldn't/won't happen.
If you believe they will, then you must believe everything Kamala has pledged will/would happen too if she becomes President. Of course not everything will/would.
Well no shit. But before an election, we have no choice but to assume that the policies put forth by candidates will be enacted one way or the other. What policy that Trump has proposed would, IF ENACTED, help me personally in any way that would make a direct difference in my life?
Only you can answer that. If you tell me there is not a single thing - I believe you.
Like I said, everything you mentioned I would be against too.

As I said this morning, I'm probably not voting for President because I simply don't want either Kamala or Donald to be my President.

Have you looked at any independent or third party candidates

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:58 pm**

"An economy with an unemployment rate of 4% and a per-person GDP of $85,000 does not have to be made great again; it is great."

The Economist

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:02 pm**

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:58 pm "An economy with an unemployment rate of 4% and a per-person GDP of $85,000 does not have to be made great again; it is great."

The Economist

Yep. Feels great every time I buy groceries or pay for gas or go to a restaurant. #betterthanArgentina

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:46 pm**

Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:34 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:01 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:55 pm

Well no shit. But before an election, we have no choice but to assume that the policies put forth by candidates will be enacted one way or the other. What policy that Trump has proposed would, IF ENACTED, help me personally in any way that would make a direct difference in my life?
As I said this morning, I'm probably not voting for President because I simply don't want either Kamala or Donald to be my President.
You have made this abundantly clear…for weeks.

It's been months and months and years and years for some (just about everyone it seems) voting for either/or.

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:58 pm**

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:38 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:01 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:55 pm

Well no shit. But before an election, we have no choice but to assume that the policies put forth by candidates will be enacted one way or the other. What policy that Trump has proposed would, IF ENACTED, help me personally in any way that would make a direct difference in my life?
Only you can answer that. If you tell me there is not a single thing - I believe you.
Like I said, everything you mentioned I would be against too.

As I said this morning, I'm probably not voting for President because I simply don't want either Kamala or Donald to be my President.
Have you looked at any independent or third party candidates

Yes.

After reading a few posts on here, I'm left wondering about the future a lot more than I am wondering about today. I wish The Economist could tell me about the next 18 months. I have had some pretty smart people tell me we may be in for a bumpy ride. Regardless of who is elected President. Why would they tell me that? Maybe I should be asking Ben Stein?

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:11 pm**

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:58 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:38 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:01 pm

Only you can answer that. If you tell me there is not a single thing - I believe you.
Like I said, everything you mentioned I would be against too.

As I said this morning, I'm probably not voting for President because I simply don't want either Kamala or Donald to be my President.
Have you looked at any independent or third party candidates
Yes.

After reading a few posts on here, I'm left wondering about the future a lot more than I am wondering about today. I wish The Economist could tell me about the next 18 months. I have had some pretty smart people tell me we may be in for a bumpy ride. Regardless of who is elected President. Why would they tell me that? Maybe I should be asking Ben Stein?

Don’t worry about it. Just be joyful. And thankful that it’s not as bad here as in Argentina. YT - Giggles

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:17 pm**

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:58 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:38 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:01 pm

Only you can answer that. If you tell me there is not a single thing - I believe you.
Like I said, everything you mentioned I would be against too.

As I said this morning, I'm probably not voting for President because I simply don't want either Kamala or Donald to be my President.
Have you looked at any independent or third party candidates
Yes.

After reading a few posts on here, I'm left wondering about the future a lot more than I am wondering about today. I wish The Economist could tell me about the next 18 months. I have had some pretty smart people tell me we may be in for a bumpy ride. Regardless of who is elected President. Why would they tell me that? Maybe I should be asking Ben Stein?

That is easy for me.

Harris brings the known, in a positive way.
Investment in America, through the continuation of several Biden policies…at least are proven to have had a positive impact on the US economy. The CHIPS act, infrastructure investment, and others HELP America.

The isolationist policies of Trump certainly will have immediate negative effects on our economy.

Musk coming out to prepare us for that should be a MASSIVE warning. If he said it, at this point, it will be 10 times worse…minimum.

America First policies are riddled with problems, and the first taste of Trump initiating them brought about a shockwave of negative impact.

Paying farmers billions NOT to farm, interrupting the supply of a viable, low cost workforce…. Buddying up to the Saudis….

The list goes on and on. If anyone needs a singular issue to slam the lid on a Trump economic policy…look no further that gutting our virology and infectious disease research just before the WORST infectious disease breakout in the history of our country.

Do you really want this man child to be the person holding the safety of our country in his hands. When he has proven himself wholly incapable of trust when it matters most?

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:38 pm**

Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:17 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:58 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:38 pm

Have you looked at any independent or third party candidates
Yes.

After reading a few posts on here, I'm left wondering about the future a lot more than I am wondering about today. I wish The Economist could tell me about the next 18 months. I have had some pretty smart people tell me we may be in for a bumpy ride. Regardless of who is elected President. Why would they tell me that? Maybe I should be asking Ben Stein?

That is easy for me.

Harris brings the known, in a positive way.
Investment in America, through the continuation of several Biden policies…at least are proven to have had a positive impact on the US economy. The CHIPS act, infrastructure investment, and others HELP America.

The isolationist policies of Trump certainly will have immediate negative effects on our economy.

Musk coming out to prepare us for that should be a MASSIVE warning. If he said it, at this point, it will be 10 times worse…minimum.

America First policies are riddled with problems, and the first taste of Trump initiating them brought about a shockwave of negative impact.

Paying farmers billions NOT to farm, interrupting the supply of a viable, low cost workforce…. Buddying up to the Saudis….

The list goes on and on. If anyone needs a singular issue to slam the lid on a Trump economic policy…look no further that gutting our virology and infectious disease research just before the WORST infectious disease breakout in the history of our country.

Do you really want this man child to be the person holding the safety of our country in his hands. When he has proven himself wholly incapable of trust when it matters most?

Solid post!

The answer to your question is no.
I want Trump to be my President less than I want Harris to be my President - but I don't want either to be my President. Who knows? Maybe I will change my mind when I have the ballot in my hand, and I will vote for Kamala. I am 99.999% sure I will not vote for Trump - but there is still that .001% chance I will.

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:39 pm**

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:02 pm
Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:58 pm "An economy with an unemployment rate of 4% and a per-person GDP of $85,000 does not have to be made great again; it is great."

The Economist
Yep. Feels great every time I buy groceries or pay for gas or go to a restaurant. #betterthanArgentina

Come on, Psych, where's your self respect?

I remember when, if you couldn't afford something, you got a second or at times, even a third job, cut back on expenses, and saved your money instead of blaming someone, anyone else, and whining constantly. In fact, now that I think about it, it didn't even occur to us to blame anyone else. We just figured we had to work more or harder, go back to school to work our way up the ladder, and/or save our money.

And, in case you're readying an "inflation" excuse, get back to me when you've gone through it for nearly a decade, because painful tho our recent episode of inflation might have been, it hasn't even lasted a 3rd of that time:

Interest rates in the 1970s were high and volatile, rising from around 7% at the beginning of the decade to over 15% by the end:

Mortgage rates
The 30-year fixed-rate mortgage started the decade at around 7.3% in 1971, and peaked at 12.9% by the end of 1979.

Inflation
Inflation in the 1970s was high and volatile, more than doubling to 8.8% in 1973 and reaching 12% later in the decade. By 1980, inflation was at 14%.

The 1970s were marked by stagflation, a period of high inflation and unemployment combined with a stagnant economy. The Iran oil embargo and the Vietnam War contributed to rising crude oil prices and the federal deficit, which significantly impacted the economy.

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:47 pm**

I don't have a problem with your not voting for one of the two candidates Gutter.
I would hope you would go in and either write in or not fill in anything as more of a statement that you would like to participate in your government but it's not doing a good job representing you.

I'll be voting for Harris b/c I agree with several her policies/thoughts on next steps on her website:

https://kamalaharris.com/a-new-way-forward/

We should have a far far better selection of choices for each and every Presidential election.
This one sucked hard.

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:49 pm**

You are a good and reasonable man PDub.

Kansas Crimson

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