Kansas Crimson

dolomite wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 10:25 pm So the Trump campaign WAS spied upon?
So says The NY Times.

Probably.
He practically begged them to.

i thought the times was fake news, no?

Update:

...More than 450 former federal prosecutors who worked in Republican and Democratic administrations have signed on to a statement asserting special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s findings would have produced obstruction charges against President Trump — if not for the office he holds...

It's not engraved on a clay tablet that a President can't be indicted.

congress needs to do its job

White House 'Directed' Ex-Counsel McGahn Not To Comply With Congressional Subpoena

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/07/72105312 ... l-subpoena

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:13 am White House 'Directed' Ex-Counsel McGahn Not To Comply With Congressional Subpoena

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/07/72105312 ... l-subpoena

Obstructing justice? This White House?

Update from Kellyanne Conway's husband, a well-known "conservative" lawyer:

#lockhimup . . . ?

“Case closed” for cocaine Mitch

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/07/us/p ... gress.html

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 12:16 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:13 am White House 'Directed' Ex-Counsel McGahn Not To Comply With Congressional Subpoena

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/07/72105312 ... l-subpoena

Obstructing justice? This White House?

Is it against the law to make an attempt to obstruct justice for a fake crime that wasn't committed, re collusion)??

On another note;
I guess pounding blackberry mobile devices with hammers in an attempt to hide evidence of a crime is not illegal either then. (careless but not reckless)
https://www.wired.com/2016/09/actually- ... es-better/

700 former prosecutors say Obstruction of Justice and you retreat to some 2016 article about blackberries to try and do whataboutism?

Better wait until DChawk comes back.

seahawk wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 6:50 am 700 former prosecutors say Obstruction of Justice and you retreat to some 2016 article about blackberries to try and do whataboutism?

Better wait until DChawk comes back.

Speaking of DC and whataboutism, am I the only one who often suspects that dolomite is/was DC's mentor in the skill?

Feral wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:12 am

seahawk wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 6:50 am 700 former prosecutors say Obstruction of Justice and you retreat to some 2016 article about blackberries to try and do whataboutism?

Better wait until DChawk comes back.

Speaking of DC and whataboutism, am I the only one who often suspects that dolomite is/was DC's mentor in the skill?

Please check out my post on whataboutism.

apples and oranges

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:14 am apples and oranges

I know, so that'll be my next response to the next poster who says "whataboutism" when comparing political arguments.

...though don’t it seem like one side of the debate is much more likely to invoke the whataboutism?

But please, someone call me out if I’m wrong.

bonus points if you can do it without mentioning the Clintons.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:56 am ...though don’t it seem like one side of the debate is much more likely to invoke the whataboutism?

But please, someone call me out if I’m wrong.

bonus points if you can do it without mentioning the Clintons.

Far be it from me to mention which political faction brings it up ("whataboutism")most of the time.