Kansas Crimson

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:50 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:48 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:45 am


Ugh.....What?!?!??

Literally the worst of the major airlines.

Man, couldn't disagree more. I could count bad experiences on one hand, and I fly a fair amount. My only significant issue is with the variety hour flight attendants you sometimes run into.

Only issue? What about (a) the herding of cattle boarding process and (b)the best seats go to those who board first issues.

Both of those are awful

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:50 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:48 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:45 am


Ugh.....What?!?!??

Literally the worst of the major airlines.

Man, couldn't disagree more. I could count bad experiences on one hand, and I fly a fair amount. My only significant issue is with the variety hour flight attendants you sometimes run into.

Only issue? What about (a) the herding of cattle boarding process and (b)the best seats go to those who board first issues.

Both of those are awful

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:58 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:50 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:48 am

Man, couldn't disagree more. I could count bad experiences on one hand, and I fly a fair amount. My only significant issue is with the variety hour flight attendants you sometimes run into.

Only issue? What about (a) the herding of cattle boarding process and (b)the best seats go to those who board first issues.

Both of those are awful

I don't find the other airlines' nine-tier boarding processes to be materially less painful. And I'm not overly picky about my seat, if I'm alone I just want an aisle as close to the front as possible...which tends not to be difficult to get.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:59 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:50 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:48 am

Man, couldn't disagree more. I could count bad experiences on one hand, and I fly a fair amount. My only significant issue is with the variety hour flight attendants you sometimes run into.

Only issue? What about (a) the herding of cattle boarding process and (b)the best seats go to those who board first issues.

Both of those are awful

The boarding is god awful on SWA, but they make up for it cost-wise with the significant savings in bag and change fees, the potential of companion pass, the most intuitive system for flight changes, never having to take puddle jumpers from smaller airports, and the best domestic record for on-time arrivals.

Of course, there's no other option being based at MCI, and I am always A group, so the boarding process is not as bad.


And, as always, the 3 legacy carriers, SWA, Alaska, and any other US-based airline all blow hard compared to many international airlines.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:58 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:50 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:48 am

Man, couldn't disagree more. I could count bad experiences on one hand, and I fly a fair amount. My only significant issue is with the variety hour flight attendants you sometimes run into.

Only issue? What about (a) the herding of cattle boarding process and (b)the best seats go to those who board first issues.

Both of those are awful

I don't find the other airlines' nine-tier boarding processes to be materially less painful. And I'm not overly picky about my seat, if I'm alone I just want an aisle as close to the front as possible...which tends not to be difficult to get.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:02 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:59 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:50 am

Only issue? What about (a) the herding of cattle boarding process and (b)the best seats go to those who board first issues.

Both of those are awful

The boarding is god awful on SWA, but they make up for it cost-wise with the significant savings in bag and change fees, the potential of companion pass, the most intuitive system for flight changes, never having to take puddle jumpers from smaller airports, and the best domestic record for on-time arrivals.

Of course, there's no other option being based at MCI, and I am always A group, so the boarding process is not as bad.


And, as always, the 3 legacy carriers, SWA, Alaska, and any other US-based airline all blow hard compared to many international airlines.

I fly Alaska 80% of the time and absolute love it. Like, zero complaints.

Delta is the preferred backup with United/American coming in 3rd/4th in no particular order.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:59 am

And, as always, the 3 legacy carriers, SWA, Alaska, and any other US-based airline all blow hard compared to many international airlines.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:06 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:02 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:59 am

The boarding is god awful on SWA, but they make up for it cost-wise with the significant savings in bag and change fees, the potential of companion pass, the most intuitive system for flight changes, never having to take puddle jumpers from smaller airports, and the best domestic record for on-time arrivals.

Of course, there's no other option being based at MCI, and I am always A group, so the boarding process is not as bad.


And, as always, the 3 legacy carriers, SWA, Alaska, and any other US-based airline all blow hard compared to many international airlines.

I fly Alaska 80% of the time and absolute love it. Like, zero complaints.

Delta is the preferred backup with United/American coming in 3rd/4th in no particular order.

Is SEA your base? That all starts to make more sense, then.

One of the good things about being based at MCI is that, being in the middle of the country, I don't feel a need to be super loyal to a carrier, just whoever can get me there the quickest for in the same ballpark cost-wise.

Other than the shitshow airport, being based in DEN sounds like one of the best setups.

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:11 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:59 am

And, as always, the 3 legacy carriers, SWA, Alaska, and any other US-based airline all blow hard compared to many international airlines.

How so?

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:20 am Denver airport blows.

It’s out in the middle of nowhere prairie dog fields east of the metro, even further away than the KC airport is from anything else.

You’ve got tens of thousands of travelers a day all going thru the same one security line. Last time I was there the line was backed up hundreds of yards and snaked all through the baggage claim and everywhere, so much so that no one even knew where it started.

Then, you gotta go wait for a train, and get railed underground to one of 3 terminals or whatever.

Then, the terminals themselves are so long you kinda wish you had another train to take you from one end to the other. But at least they have the magic carpet walkways, which is at least a good opportunity to show off yer moonwalking skills to the fellow travelers.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:17 am

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:11 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:59 am

And, as always, the 3 legacy carriers, SWA, Alaska, and any other US-based airline all blow hard compared to many international airlines.

How so?

Comfort, amenities, service, food, equipment, efficiency, websites, loyalty programs, domestic pricing abroad, and hot flight attendants given the lack of employment discrimination laws.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:59 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:50 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:48 am

Man, couldn't disagree more. I could count bad experiences on one hand, and I fly a fair amount. My only significant issue is with the variety hour flight attendants you sometimes run into.

Only issue? What about (a) the herding of cattle boarding process and (b)the best seats go to those who board first issues.

Both of those are awful

The boarding is god awful on SWA, but they make up for it cost-wise with the significant savings in bag and change fees, the potential of companion pass, the most intuitive system for flight changes, never having to take puddle jumpers from smaller airports, and the best domestic record for on-time arrivals.

Of course, there's no other option being based at MCI, and I am always A group, so the boarding process is not as bad.


And, as always, the 3 legacy carriers, SWA, Alaska, and any other US-based airline all blow hard compared to many international airlines.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:25 am And if I were based in DEN, I'd probably even put the money up for CLEAR, because security does blow there and is one of the worst TSA pre-check experiences.

But, you just have to tell yourself that you're saving a ton of time by not having a layover and being able to choose almost any airline.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:31 am I think my major airline rankings would be:

Middle East
Asia
Qantas
Europe
USA-Canada
Africa