Kansas Crimson

i tried to make that point the other day, prior to this thread’s creation

I think the Arterio issue affected us more than most.

Arterio was likely the best of dajuan, elmarko, and Timberlake. His lost hurt us a lot. We desperately needed his quickness and ability to beat his man with a quick first step and ignite an offense

Once again, we have no idea of knowing that ( and also GTFO with better than Dajuan from 4.6 PPG on 40% shooting ).
Guy had 4.6 PPG last season at a worse shooting % ( both FG and 3FG ) than Elmarko this season.
There isn't the proof there to back up your statement.

Could he have doubled those numbers here?
Maybe?
Could he actually have been even worse than that?
Also maybe.

The little bit I saw of Arterio, he seemed to be what we truly missed this year.
Offensive Aggression.
That may not show up in PPG stats, but this years team just doesn't seem to have anyone that can inflict their will on the ENTIRE defense.
KM can, to some degree. Hunter can a little bit.

Jut my opinion.

Overlander wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:36 pm The little bit I saw of Arterio, he seemed to be what we truly missed this year.
Offensive Aggression.
That may not show up in PPG stats, but this years team just doesn't seem to have anyone that can inflict their will on the ENTIRE defense.
KM can, to some degree. Hunter can a little bit.

Jut my opinion.

agreed, but, what can you do, he made his own bed (twice?). We're not Illinois.

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:38 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:36 pm The little bit I saw of Arterio, he seemed to be what we truly missed this year.
Offensive Aggression.
That may not show up in PPG stats, but this years team just doesn't seem to have anyone that can inflict their will on the ENTIRE defense.
KM can, to some degree. Hunter can a little bit.

Jut my opinion.

agreed, but, what can you do, he made his own bed (twice?). We're not Illinois.

When we're talking about eggs in baskets, this certainly comes to mind.

In a sense, Yesufu had that kind of drive too - speed / taking on defenders.
He just couldn't finish or shoot.
By the looks of things ( and from the data we have ) , while Arterio was a definitely different build, he couldn't finish or shoot either.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:48 pm In a sense, Yesufu had that kind of drive too - speed / taking on defenders.
He just couldn't finish or shoot.
By the looks of things ( and from the data we have ) , while Arterio was a definitely different build, he couldn't finish or shoot either.

I tend to believe (perhaps erroneously) that Arterio was a better prospect that yesufu by a decent margin.



Some might even say he had...."the tools" mightve been the young Makita I dunno...

Arterio was a much better prospect that yesefu

Pdub does not want to admit arterio would have helped us, but we all know it. Bill doesn't take a risk on a guy like that for no reason

And we did get to see a little of him, in practice and the exhibition games, and he was the most dynamic guard on the roster

Arterio had talent and a gear that dajuan doesn't

"Pdub does not want to admit arterio would have helped us"

I did not say this.
Of course he would have helped us.

Here are some things I was responding to:

"Arterio was likely the best of dajuan..."
Dajuan is 3rd team All B12 quality. There isn't any proof Arterio could be this.

"His lost hurt us a lot..."
A lot? Pump the brakes on a 4.6 PPG, 40% FG player.

Yesufu was also the most dynamic guard on the roster last season.
He couldn't finish or shoot.

Dajuan would have been better at his niche. We all know what dajuan is. Arterios athletic ability would have given us something different that this team was missing

OK, yes, I agree.

I don't feel like DH is playing out of his niche this year. I just think his niche doesn't work as well with an offensively limited team.

We have to run offense on every single possession to score. And when we run it well, and shoot it well, we are highly efficient and get a ton of easy baskets off of assists.

Unfortunately, we don't shoot it well much.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:32 pm I don't feel like DH is playing out of his niche this year. I just think his niche doesn't work as well with an offensively limited team.

We have to run offense on every single possession to score. And when we run it well, and shoot it well, we are highly efficientand get a ton of easy baskets off of assists.

Unfortunately, we don't shoot it well much.

you get the John Madden award for today

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:37 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:32 pm I don't feel like DH is playing out of his niche this year. I just think his niche doesn't work as well with an offensively limited team.

We have to run offense on every single possession to score. And when we run it well, and shoot it well, we are highly efficientand get a ton of easy baskets off of assists.

Unfortunately, we don't shoot it well much.

you get the John Madden award for today

LOL

what i am trying to say in a less john madden way is that without our offense creating easy baskets we are unable to score most of the time. We can't just grind out wins with ugly offense and good defense.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:27 pmOK, yes, I agree.

Dude, have some respect and don't out socked posters by calling them by their real (if shorthand) names.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:59 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:27 pmOK, yes, I agree.

Dude, have some respect and don't out socked posters by calling them by their real (if shorthand) names.

potd

lol at tejas and ou

bye, felicia

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:14 pm lol at tejas and ou

Who?