Kansas Crimson

the insinuation that anyone should just tolerate bigotry, and that intolerance is equated to the bigotry itself, is…odd, to say the least

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:03 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:00 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:51 am

If you were to look at the last fifteen years of posting on dotcom, dotnet and kcrim, I’d wager that if anyone was going to be labeled as hateful, combative and dismissive, it would be far more likely to be you than most others here.

It is and has always been a two-way street.

And you may look at this as a contradiction but I always relate this place to a bar I run…and people like you aren’t welcome.

Oh, that message has long been communicated loud and clear.

Then why do you keep showing up at the bar?

Middle finger and all that?

masochistic trolling?

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:18 am Then why do you keep showing up at the bar?

Middle finger and all that?

It's how I'm wired. Just like with Overlander, the bully doesn't get the last word as long as I have any say in the matter.

At some point, you'll permaban me, and that's your prerogative as the owner of the bar. Until then, the contempt and dismissiveness just fuels the fire.

seems to me there’s a whole lot of truth here

https://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/ ... ident/amp/

the sexism and homophobia present in the hispanic community, at least when i was living in norther New Mexico, are quite strong

not voting for ch don't make you sexist.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:37 am not voting for ch don't make you sexist.

Absolutely it 'don't'.
But voting for Trump might.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:21 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:18 am Then why do you keep showing up at the bar?

Middle finger and all that?

It's how I'm wired. Just like with Overlander, the bully doesn't get the last word as long as I have any say in the matter.

At some point, you'll permaban me, and that's your prerogative as the owner of the bar. Until then, the contempt and dismissiveness just fuels the fire.

Right.
Just letting it known, in the foreseeable future, i'm not going to let unreliable/unsourced info be spewed onto the site.
I'm just tired of it.

I'll be bouncing from the poli-bored pretty soon but posters here can be free to flag a post if it is clearly attempting to be poised as a factual statement ( particularly since media embeds are back on the table - so trashy twitter posts are probably the biggest culprit here ) but has the complete opposite of validity - i.e. a conspiracy or a total lie.

If that type of posting continues to happen, then you will be breaking our newer up-to-date bored rules, and you'll get to go to timeout and then, eventually, lobster'd.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:12 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:25 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:59 am

I suppose so. I lean "fucked".

I mentioned too frequently on here than I didn't want to vote for Harris or Trump.
I ended up voting for Harris. Well, not really for Harris. For Harris' potential cabinet. That's what I used to convince myself to vote for her. Probably was only fooling myself in doing that. Who was she going to surround herself with? I just felt safer with her potential choices than I will inevitably feel with Trump's choices.
I can't help but wonder how many people didn't vote for Trump but voted for his potential cabinet. 1%? Can't be enough to have made the difference in the results. Right? I don't know if I hope I am right or wrong, but I do know I can't for the life of me figure out why people like Donald Trump as a person.

Because they are either wealthy or morans.

And that's why he won. Calling people morans and disparaging them as less than human just makes them want to push back.

I know a lot of people who voted for Trump, and not one of them like him or think he is a good person. All of them, however, knew several people who were loud and proud in calling them rubes, morans, and bigots and saw multitudes more in the media doing the same. They all - without exception - took great satisfaction in casting their vote for Trump as a middle finger right back at the people disparaging them.

Your side already had the economy going against you. You added a weak candidate and the condescending tone, and all of that together sealed your fate.

I begrudgingly agree with Psych on this post.
Trumps team.... once again, tapped into the depths of the minds of people that many of us don't give much thought to.

Young men were a huge vote for Trump- They got tired of their masculinity being challenged. They were fed up with not having the equal to or better than life of the fathers and grandfathers. They are the perfect catch for a trap set with hatred of others, even if that "hatred" isn't really who they are, they got tired of being told that they were hateful.

Latinos turned out in huge numbers for Trump- many of them have a distaste for incoming immigrants. And Trump's team did a great job of creating a "it isn't YOU...it's THEM" line between illegal and legal immigrants. Also, keep in mind that for many from South American countries, going against the perceived power could literally cost you your LIFE. Don't think that isn't in their minds, I know for a fact that it is.

Trump's team painted a picture that constantly reminded you just how bad everything is. He turned the amp to 11 on just how fucked up this country is. They set up perfectly a scenario where they don't need any solutions, but the fact that Trump even exists is cold comfort for them.

You wanna blame someone, blame Steve Bannon. He set this entire movement up perfectly.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:21 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:18 am Then why do you keep showing up at the bar?

Middle finger and all that?

It's how I'm wired. Just like with Overlander, the bully doesn't get the last word as long as I have any say in the matter.

Things a troll says for $100?

Oh, I agree that the general message from some of the left isn't great ( mEn ArE bAD!!! ) and I can see why/where the anger lies in American males.

But you aren't a moran for feeling that way.
You're a moran for voting for Trump who gives zero shits about any of you.
You got used.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:30 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:21 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:18 am Then why do you keep showing up at the bar?

Middle finger and all that?

It's how I'm wired. Just like with Overlander, the bully doesn't get the last word as long as I have any say in the matter.

At some point, you'll permaban me, and that's your prerogative as the owner of the bar. Until then, the contempt and dismissiveness just fuels the fire.

Right.
Just letting it known, in the foreseeable future, i'm not going to let unreliable/unsourced info be spewed onto the site.
I'm just tired of it.

I'll be bouncing from the poli-bored pretty soon but posters here can be free to flag a post if it is clearly attempting to be poised as a factual statement ( particularly since media embeds are back on the table - so trashy twitter posts are probably the biggest culprit here ) but has the complete opposite of validity - i.e. a conspiracy or a total lie.

If that type of posting continues to happen, then you will be breaking our newer up-to-date bored rules, and you'll get to go to timeout and then, eventually, lobster'd.

And somehow I'll find a way to exist under the Sword of Damocles you have hanging over my head.

Overlander wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:44 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:21 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:18 am Then why do you keep showing up at the bar?

Middle finger and all that?

It's how I'm wired. Just like with Overlander, the bully doesn't get the last word as long as I have any say in the matter.

Things a troll says for $100?

Asked and answered, Counselor. All a part of the existing record.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:46 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:30 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:21 am

It's how I'm wired. Just like with Overlander, the bully doesn't get the last word as long as I have any say in the matter.

At some point, you'll permaban me, and that's your prerogative as the owner of the bar. Until then, the contempt and dismissiveness just fuels the fire.

Right.
Just letting it known, in the foreseeable future, i'm not going to let unreliable/unsourced info be spewed onto the site.
I'm just tired of it.

I'll be bouncing from the poli-bored pretty soon but posters here can be free to flag a post if it is clearly attempting to be poised as a factual statement ( particularly since media embeds are back on the table - so trashy twitter posts are probably the biggest culprit here ) but has the complete opposite of validity - i.e. a conspiracy or a total lie.

If that type of posting continues to happen, then you will be breaking our newer up-to-date bored rules, and you'll get to go to timeout and then, eventually, lobster'd.

And somehow I'll find a way to exist under the Sword of Damocles you have hanging over my head.

Feel free to leave our court at any moment, no fear of swords needed.
You don't need to be here, no one is stopping you.
Hell, i'll hold the door open as you leave.

ahh, the powerful pdub…delivering punishment upon those with whom he disagrees

lol

clown

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:01 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:46 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:30 am

Right.
Just letting it known, in the foreseeable future, i'm not going to let unreliable/unsourced info be spewed onto the site.
I'm just tired of it.

I'll be bouncing from the poli-bored pretty soon but posters here can be free to flag a post if it is clearly attempting to be poised as a factual statement ( particularly since media embeds are back on the table - so trashy twitter posts are probably the biggest culprit here ) but has the complete opposite of validity - i.e. a conspiracy or a total lie.

If that type of posting continues to happen, then you will be breaking our newer up-to-date bored rules, and you'll get to go to timeout and then, eventually, lobster'd.

And somehow I'll find a way to exist under the Sword of Damocles you have hanging over my head.

Feel free to leave our court at any moment, no fear of swords needed.
You don't need to be here, no one is stopping you.
Hell, i'll hold the door open as you leave.

That's been made abundantly/redundantly clear.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:45 am Oh, I agree that the general message from some of the left isn't great ( mEn ArE bAD!!! ) and I can see why/where the anger lies in American males.

But you aren't a moran for feeling that way.
You're a moran for voting for Trump who gives zero shits about any of you.
You got used.

It's not like there were multiple choices. It was binary: vote for the candidate put forth by people who actively hate and disparage you or vote for the other guy.

Not rocket science.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:34 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:45 am Oh, I agree that the general message from some of the left isn't great ( mEn ArE bAD!!! ) and I can see why/where the anger lies in American males.

But you aren't a moran for feeling that way.
You're a moran for voting for Trump who gives zero shits about any of you.
You got used.

It's not like there were multiple choices. It was binary: vote for the candidate put forth by people who actively hate and disparage you or vote for the other guy.

Not rocket science.

Do you think the candidate you voted for was the better candidate for the job?

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:38 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:34 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:45 am Oh, I agree that the general message from some of the left isn't great ( mEn ArE bAD!!! ) and I can see why/where the anger lies in American males.

But you aren't a moran for feeling that way.
You're a moran for voting for Trump who gives zero shits about any of you.
You got used.

It's not like there were multiple choices. It was binary: vote for the candidate put forth by people who actively hate and disparage you or vote for the other guy.

Not rocket science.

Do you think the candidate you voted for was the better candidate for the job?

Better than Giggles? Hands down.
Better than anyone else who could have done the job? Absolutely not.