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Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:50 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:46 pm

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:11 am Since it’s draft day, I’ll drop this here.

Joe Burrow will be a bust.

Burrow is on pace to throw for 4,624 yards, which would set a new rookie record.

Which has nothing to do with his bust status

Referring to QB yards is like referring to three pointers or 360 yard drives.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:30 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:50 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:46 pm

Burrow is on pace to throw for 4,624 yards, which would set a new rookie record.

Which has nothing to do with his bust status

Referring to QB yards is like referring to three pointers or 360 yard drives.

Exactly

OK, so we have a different definition of bust.
Stafford is not a bust to me.
Not surprising, given your glass half empty all over this bored, that Stafford is a bust for you.

I expect #1 overall draft picks and $226 M to win a playoff game. Or, at the very least, be Top 5-10 at their position.

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:50 am OK, so we have a different definition of bust.
Stafford is not a bust to me.
Not surprising, given your glass half empty all over this bored, that Stafford is a bust for you.

What I really wonder is how many of those losses against winning teams were Almost Wins!

You can expect that.
But if they don't, I would hope you wouldn't label them a 'bust'.
He's a starting caliber QB and would start on around or just under half of the teams.

Well, I’m pretty sure I said borderline bust?!?!

Look it up dipshit

Before Stafford, the Lions hadn't been to the playoffs in nine years.
Their record during that time:
40-104.

While the quarterback is the most important part of the team, there are many other reasons why the Lions don't win. He's not a bust or 'borderline' bust.

He’s a #1 draft pick whose been paid $226M and has an average QBR of 15th in the league.

That’s definitely borderline

He is an almost winner!

Am i doing this right?

Fwiw being average isn't a bust. He's done better than many of the #1 QBs taken during his career if i had to guess.

Dude was the #1 pick in the draft. He's made one pro bowl. He's a bust.

A bust would be David Carr, JaMarcus Russell or Sam Bradford.

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:46 pm A bust would be David Carr, JaMarcus Russell or Sam Bradford.

Agreed.

Who should they have taken over Stafford?

Mark Sanchez? Josh Freeman? Pat White? Stephen McGee? Rhett Bomar?

He is by FAR the best QB from his draft class and it isn't even close. He is not a bust.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:11 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:46 pm A bust would be David Carr, JaMarcus Russell or Sam Bradford.

Agreed.

I figure a "bust" would be many if not most NFL players who were drafted 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

Then both of you are not being realistic and the term bust looses meaning.

Stephen Gilmore possibly being shopped.
If you could get him for a 2nd rounder, would you do it?

Yes

Yes and don’t look back.