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Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:09 am
by Cascadia
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:16 am
Our military does a lot of good things for our country. Provides jobs. Provides protection. Provides education.
The fact that people still believe this is insane. Our country is full of dumbdumbs
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:10 am
by Deleted User 863
Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:45 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:16 am
Our military does a lot of good things for our country. Provides jobs. Provides protection. Provides education.
And that justifies a blank check?
Absolutely not.
But we "blank check" a lot of things it seems like.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:13 am
by Deleted User 863
Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:46 am
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:13 am
i would much rather pay for our great military. than pay for a child tax credit that goes to families making $200,000.00/year.
Does it? I was under the impression I would have to pay that back come tax time, but wasn't sure.
Edit: Google is a wonderful thing. I guess you keep it if you're an individual making $200,000 or household making $400,000. Where do you think the cutoff should be Mich?
200k in big cities is quite different than 200k in more rural areas. For it to make sense it would have to incorporate cost of living in where cutoffs would be.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:13 am
by Deleted User 863
Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:09 am Our country is full of dumbdumbs
We agree there.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:21 am
by TDub
Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:09 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:16 am
Our military does a lot of good things for our country. Provides jobs. Provides protection. Provides education.
The fact that people still believe this is insane. Our country is full of dumbdumbs
so....we should disband the military?
the military does do a lot of good things and provides opportunities and assistance to people who go that route.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:22 am
by Cascadia
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:21 am
Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:09 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:16 am
Our military does a lot of good things for our country. Provides jobs. Provides protection. Provides education.
The fact that people still believe this is insane. Our country is full of dumbdumbs
so....we should disband the military?
the military does do a lot of good things and provides opportunities and assistance to people who go that route.
Just quoting this for it's stupidity.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:46 am
by Deleted User 863
Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:22 am
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:21 am
Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:09 am
The fact that people still believe this is insane. Our country is full of dumbdumbs
so....we should disband the military?
the military does do a lot of good things and provides opportunities and assistance to people who go that route.
Just quoting this for it's stupidity.
Same
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:48 am
by MICHHAWK
an individual making $200,000.00 does not need gov't assistance.
that is absurd.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:49 am
by Deleted User 863
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:48 am
a single person making $200,000.00 does not need gov't assistance.
that is absurd.
I agree. The only assistance they may need would be with budgeting and excess spending if they can't live on that.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:51 am
by ProudBoy
Talk about absurd:
And I agree with MICHHAWK as well. It’s all unnecessary spending. So much good could be done with all that money.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:04 am
by Deleted User 863
Makes sense if we're going to have to take over the world someday.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:18 am
by ousdahl
Aren’t we already trying our damndest to take over the world?
Is there any other country that’s still just as plain imperial as us? Particularly in terms of military footprint, pursuit of resources, etc
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:09 am
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:18 am
Aren’t we already trying our damndest to take over the world?
Is there any other country that’s still just as plain imperial as us? Particularly in terms of military footprint, pursuit of resources, etc
At some point the environmental crisis may require us (or whoever is most capable) to take over a large portion of the world if we plan to continue our existence on this planet. Thinking everyone is going to sit around a campfire eating smores and agree to things is fantasyland.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:23 pm
by Mjl
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:48 am
an individual making $200,000.00 does not need gov't assistance.
that is absurd.
They are not getting the new child tax credit.
Are you happy now?
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:33 pm
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:09 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:18 am
Aren’t we already trying our damndest to take over the world?
Is there any other country that’s still just as plain imperial as us? Particularly in terms of military footprint, pursuit of resources, etc
At some point the environmental crisis may require us (or whoever is most capable) to take over a large portion of the world if we plan to continue our existence on this planet. Thinking everyone is going to sit around a campfire eating smores and agree to things is fantasyland.
Why?
Specifically, why’s it have to be a matter of “take over” the planet, as if the answer to climate change is more imperial hierarchy?
And why us? What makes us the best equipped to tackle the issue? And least vulnerable to being corrupted in that pursuit by more cynical interests?
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:35 pm
by ProudBoy
Military industrial complex. We, as in the US, neither have right or earned privilege of such a responsibility, but we sure as hell have the force to take it.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:37 pm
by ousdahl
Ironically, the MIC is one of thee biggest contributors to climate change of all
Like in itself bigger than most other entire countries
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:38 pm
by Deleted User 863
ProudBoy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:35 pm
Military industrial complex. We, as in the US, neither have right or earned privilege of such a responsibility, but we sure as hell have the force to take it.
A lot of truth in there.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:39 pm
by ousdahl
But judging by the Merican imperial track record, we’re far less likely to use our power to be leaders in combating environmental destruction, and far more likely to use that power to just go looting for more oil
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:39 pm
by ProudBoy
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:37 pm
Ironically, the MIC is one of thee biggest contributors to climate change of all
Like in itself bigger than most other entire countries
It was also one of the first “entities” in the US gov’t to take climate change seriously and start strategizing for it.