Re: Charges
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:00 pm
Sorry if this was already posted.
I think someone mentioned earlier that republicans controlled both houses of congress from 2017-19 while Trump was in office, so if Bill or Hillary, or if Joe while he was VP or Hunter committed crimes, what kept republicans from charging them then? Lack of evidence? They controlled the Justice Dept for 4 years, where are the charges?jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:48 pmYour ilk has spent something like twenty cumulative years investigating the Clintons and Bidens, and all you've got are crayon drawings connecting random dots.randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:21 pm They've specifically been trying to get trhmk for like 8 years now. They've specifically targeted the political outsider, while protecting people like the clintons, bush's, biden, the political insiders
Do you not see this? And the danger of this
If there are facts supporting charges, show the facts and bring the charges...
I would support prosecuting Biden tomorrow - before/during/after Trump's shit is irrelevant - if a grand jury found probable cause that Biden committed crimes.
That has not happened. That has not happened despite how many investigations, governmental and otherwise, your clan (being charitable with that spelling) has conducted.
Biden is Schrödinger’s Delawarean. Simultaneously too old, doddering and senile to be president, and yet also a criminal mastermind capable of dodging decades of investigations into his family (along with something like a dozen high stakes national elections).Feral wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:34 pmI think someone mentioned earlier that republicans controlled both houses of congress from 2017-19 while Trump was in office, so if Bill or Hillary, or if Joe while he was VP or Hunter committed crimes, what kept republicans from charging them then? Lack of evidence? They controlled the Justice Dept for 4 years, where are the charges?jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:48 pmYour ilk has spent something like twenty cumulative years investigating the Clintons and Bidens, and all you've got are crayon drawings connecting random dots.randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:21 pm They've specifically been trying to get trhmk for like 8 years now. They've specifically targeted the political outsider, while protecting people like the clintons, bush's, biden, the political insiders
Do you not see this? And the danger of this
If there are facts supporting charges, show the facts and bring the charges...
I would support prosecuting Biden tomorrow - before/during/after Trump's shit is irrelevant - if a grand jury found probable cause that Biden committed crimes.
That has not happened. That has not happened despite how many investigations, governmental and otherwise, your clan (being charitable with that spelling) has conducted.
It's the same cult of personality state of mind that keeps the people who support Trump's Big Lie from considering that if, indeed, democrats had "stolen" the presidential election in Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, etc., etc., why wouldn't they have also rigged enough congressional elections in those same 6 states to give themselves more than a 4-vote majority in the house, and a Manchin/Sinema proof majority in the senate? Are they too stupid to see that both would go together, and projecting their ignorance onto dems? Because, if I was evil enough to rig one election in all those states, I wouldn't have ignored the others.
In other words. shut the fuck up, or show us the evidence, rubes.
Lawyers take on losers (cases; clients; causes) all the time. There are things that are different about this, though. Yes, the money…Trump famously doesn’t pay.Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:50 pm Knowing your client is guilty. He was caught in the act. He has several co-conspirators testifying against him. He was on tape sharing war plans. Several key documents look like they were sold and are missing. Client also goes public saying it isn't a crime if he does it and threatening law enforcement like a Marvel Comic villain. And notoriously does not pay. And gets lawyers disbarred for the criminal acts exception as their internal memos become evidence. Dream client.
Speak truthfully.
Today he has even gone back to the OJ planted evidence defense which mean he acknowledges the classified documents recovery was valid. Genius.jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:22 amLawyers take on losers (cases; clients; causes) all the time. There are things that are different about this, though. Yes, the money…Trump famously doesn’t pay.Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:50 pm Knowing your client is guilty. He was caught in the act. He has several co-conspirators testifying against him. He was on tape sharing war plans. Several key documents look like they were sold and are missing. Client also goes public saying it isn't a crime if he does it and threatening law enforcement like a Marvel Comic villain. And notoriously does not pay. And gets lawyers disbarred for the criminal acts exception as their internal memos become evidence. Dream client.
But Trump is now so toxic and so extreme that there’s not even a career leveling-up to be had by losing. You become a hero and a martyr in the eyes of…which prospective clients actually?
And that’s if you’re lucky.
More likely, you’ll lose (see above), AND Trump will publicly blame you for it. And then you have no money, no improved prospects, no reputation…and a horde of MAGAs who might actually hurt you or your family.
Hard pass.
That's sort of what I'm saying. If I had to guess in 2017, I would have guessed some sort of self-dealing involving Russia. And this may not really be SO far off, when all the ink dries.
He's dead to rights on the facts and on the law. His only hope - and it's not out of the question, perhaps not even a long shot - rests with some combination of (1) the judge tips the scales, and (2) at least one rube makes it through voir dire.Sparko wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:14 pmToday he has even gone back to the OJ planted evidence defense which mean he acknowledges the classified documents recovery was valid. Genius.jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:22 amLawyers take on losers (cases; clients; causes) all the time. There are things that are different about this, though. Yes, the money…Trump famously doesn’t pay.Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:50 pm Knowing your client is guilty. He was caught in the act. He has several co-conspirators testifying against him. He was on tape sharing war plans. Several key documents look like they were sold and are missing. Client also goes public saying it isn't a crime if he does it and threatening law enforcement like a Marvel Comic villain. And notoriously does not pay. And gets lawyers disbarred for the criminal acts exception as their internal memos become evidence. Dream client.
But Trump is now so toxic and so extreme that there’s not even a career leveling-up to be had by losing. You become a hero and a martyr in the eyes of…which prospective clients actually?
And that’s if you’re lucky.
More likely, you’ll lose (see above), AND Trump will publicly blame you for it. And then you have no money, no improved prospects, no reputation…and a horde of MAGAs who might actually hurt you or your family.
Hard pass.
Took him a few days to get his hands on critical defense classified documents. But we all knew he was basically the Manchurian Orange BBQ candidate
If I see some sort of real evidence that he has committed a crime? Yes.randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:19 pm As soon as trumps prosecution is done with, do you support prosecuting biden?
Is this justice or politics