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Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:22 am
by zsn
JKLivin wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:53 am
zsn wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:52 pm If you ask every person picking cauliflower or waiting in the Home Depot parking lot for a shot at a painting gig they will tell you that will (do) actually pay taxes and want to become actual citizens, and have something to contribute rather than mostly things to take.

They are no different than the H-1B holders who overstay their work authorization. Unfortunately they are not white, like Elon Musk.

But you know that.
I’m infinitely more concerned with tax revenue associated with a programmer’s salary vs. a cauliflower picker’s wages and their long-term contribution to the nation than I am the color of their skin. Sorry to throw a monkey wrench in your lazy hypothesis.
Then why aren’t you worried about real estate developers not paying any tax?

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:53 am
by JKLivin
zsn wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:22 am
JKLivin wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:53 am
zsn wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:52 pm If you ask every person picking cauliflower or waiting in the Home Depot parking lot for a shot at a painting gig they will tell you that will (do) actually pay taxes and want to become actual citizens, and have something to contribute rather than mostly things to take.

They are no different than the H-1B holders who overstay their work authorization. Unfortunately they are not white, like Elon Musk.

But you know that.
I’m infinitely more concerned with tax revenue associated with a programmer’s salary vs. a cauliflower picker’s wages and their long-term contribution to the nation than I am the color of their skin. Sorry to throw a monkey wrench in your lazy hypothesis.
Then why aren’t you worried about real estate developers not paying any tax?
Who said I wasn't?

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:06 am
by zsn
But you support and voted for someone who hasn’t shown that he has paid any income tax

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:31 am
by JKLivin
zsn wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:06 am But you support and voted for someone who hasn’t shown that he has paid any income tax
I don't agree with everything he says or does or stands for. Unfortunately, in a binary system, choices have to be made, even imperfect ones.

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:07 am
by zsn
So what are your non-negotiables in a binary choice?

Apparently the following are acceptable: adultery, sexual assault, falsifying business records, tax evasion, inciting mass violence, white nationalism.

Not acceptable: being female.

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:12 am
by KUTradition
zsn wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:07 am So what are your non-negotiables in a binary choice?

Apparently the following are acceptable: adultery, sexual assault, falsifying business records, tax evasion, inciting mass violence, white nationalism.

Not acceptable: being female.
it’s what zero integrity and poor character look like

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:20 am
by zsn
KUTradition wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:12 am
zsn wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:07 am So what are your non-negotiables in a binary choice?

Apparently the following are acceptable: adultery, sexual assault, falsifying business records, tax evasion, inciting mass violence, white nationalism.

Not acceptable: being female.
it’s what zero integrity and poor character look like
THIS is what national decline looks like.

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:22 am
by JKLivin
zsn wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:07 am So what are your non-negotiables in a binary choice?

Apparently the following are acceptable: adultery, sexual assault, falsifying business records, tax evasion, inciting mass violence, white nationalism.

Not acceptable: being female.
There was no sexual assault, inciting mass violence, or White nationalism. Repeating lies doesn’t make them true.

I have no patience with stupidity, lying to cover up the fact that a POTUS is not cognitively fit to lead, socialist beliefs. failure to put the American people first, and lack of solutions to real problems like the economy and border security.

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:26 am
by KUTradition
JKLivin wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:22 am
zsn wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:07 am So what are your non-negotiables in a binary choice?

Apparently the following are acceptable: adultery, sexual assault, falsifying business records, tax evasion, inciting mass violence, white nationalism.

Not acceptable: being female.
There was no sexual assault, inciting mass violence, or White nationalism. Repeating lies doesn’t make them true.

I have no patience with stupidity, lying to cover up the fact that a POTUS is not cognitively fit to lead, socialist beliefs. failure to put the American people first, and lack of solutions to real problems like the economy and border security.
oh, you mean like stolen elections?

:lol:

do better

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:29 am
by KUTradition
certainty is the enemy of unity

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:07 pm
by Overlander
JKLivin wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:22 am
zsn wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:07 am So what are your non-negotiables in a binary choice?

Apparently the following are acceptable: adultery, sexual assault, falsifying business records, tax evasion, inciting mass violence, white nationalism.

Not acceptable: being female.
There was no sexual assault, inciting mass violence, or White nationalism. Repeating lies doesn’t make them true.

I have no patience with stupidity, lying to cover up the fact that a POTUS is not cognitively fit to lead, socialist beliefs. failure to put the American people first, and lack of solutions to real problems like the economy and border security.
You are delusional.

Not only was Trump found GUILTY of sexual assault, he fucking bragged about doing it on tape. His words.

He fucking encouraged a mob to attack the Capitol. His words.

He has unmistakably sided with White Nationalists on a damn near daily basis.

Your smug insistence that these things never happened are the biggest reason that every single person on the site besides Mich think you are a douche.

And honestly, I am confident that you ENJOY being though of in this way.

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:16 pm
by JKLivin
Overlander wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:07 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:22 am
zsn wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:07 am So what are your non-negotiables in a binary choice?

Apparently the following are acceptable: adultery, sexual assault, falsifying business records, tax evasion, inciting mass violence, white nationalism.

Not acceptable: being female.
There was no sexual assault, inciting mass violence, or White nationalism. Repeating lies doesn’t make them true.

I have no patience with stupidity, lying to cover up the fact that a POTUS is not cognitively fit to lead, socialist beliefs. failure to put the American people first, and lack of solutions to real problems like the economy and border security.
You are delusional.

Not only was Trump found GUILTY of sexual assault, he fucking bragged about doing it on tape. His words.

He fucking encouraged a mob to attack the Capitol. His words.

He has unmistakably sided with White Nationalists on a damn near daily basis.

Your smug insistence that these things never happened are the biggest reason that every single person on the site besides Mich think you are a douche.

And honestly, I am confident that you ENJOY being though of in this way.
George Stephanopolous had to pay out $15 million for saying he was convicted of rape. That’s a lot of money for saying something that was “true”.

He told the people to “make your voices heard peacefully.” On tape. The unedited version that you apparently never listened to. What some people did with that is their responsibility, not his.

He has never supported White nationalists. In fact, he specifically excluded them from his “very fine people” statement. It’s not my fault that you listen to the edited/clipped version and take it as Gospel.

I stopped caring about being liked around here a long time ago. I have plenty of friends and family who love me. I’ll be fine.

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:35 pm
by jfish26
"had to" is a load-bearing defect in that post, but ok.

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:39 pm
by Overlander
JKLivin wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:16 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:07 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:22 am

There was no sexual assault, inciting mass violence, or White nationalism. Repeating lies doesn’t make them true.

I have no patience with stupidity, lying to cover up the fact that a POTUS is not cognitively fit to lead, socialist beliefs. failure to put the American people first, and lack of solutions to real problems like the economy and border security.
You are delusional.

Not only was Trump found GUILTY of sexual assault, he fucking bragged about doing it on tape. His words.

He fucking encouraged a mob to attack the Capitol. His words.

He has unmistakably sided with White Nationalists on a damn near daily basis.

Your smug insistence that these things never happened are the biggest reason that every single person on the site besides Mich think you are a douche.

And honestly, I am confident that you ENJOY being though of in this way.
George Stephanopolous had to pay out $15 million for saying he was convicted of rape. That’s a lot of money for saying something that was “true”.

He told the people to “make your voices heard peacefully.” On tape. The unedited version that you apparently never listened to. What some people did with that is their responsibility, not his.

He has never supported White nationalists. In fact, he specifically excluded them from his “very fine people” statement. It’s not my fault that you listen to the edited/clipped version and take it as Gospel.

I stopped caring about being liked around here a long time ago. I have plenty of friends and family who love me. I’ll be fine.
That settlement has nothing to do with the CONVICTION for sexual assault, but you know that.

I didn’t have to rely on a “taped/edited” anything. I saw it live, as it happened. Of course, you know this is true also.

He has, hundreds of times, named his respect and admiration for numerous figures that are self proclaimed white (Christian) nationalists. You know this too.

Your selective manipulation of facts is a true testament to your unnerving love for this Fucking Orange Turd. I guess that gives you some form of comfort.

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:41 pm
by Overlander
jfish26 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:35 pm "had to" is a load-bearing defect in that post, but ok.
Oh no, it is 100% proof that Trump remains vindicated.

You should just let Psych be the legal expert here. Maybe you can take up community college Psychology.

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:47 pm
by JKLivin
jfish26 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:35 pm "had to" is a load-bearing defect in that post, but ok.
Chose to settle to avoid worse repercussions?

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:49 pm
by JKLivin
Overlander wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:39 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:16 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:07 pm

You are delusional.

Not only was Trump found GUILTY of sexual assault, he fucking bragged about doing it on tape. His words.

He fucking encouraged a mob to attack the Capitol. His words.

He has unmistakably sided with White Nationalists on a damn near daily basis.

Your smug insistence that these things never happened are the biggest reason that every single person on the site besides Mich think you are a douche.

And honestly, I am confident that you ENJOY being though of in this way.
George Stephanopolous had to pay out $15 million for saying he was convicted of rape. That’s a lot of money for saying something that was “true”.

He told the people to “make your voices heard peacefully.” On tape. The unedited version that you apparently never listened to. What some people did with that is their responsibility, not his.

He has never supported White nationalists. In fact, he specifically excluded them from his “very fine people” statement. It’s not my fault that you listen to the edited/clipped version and take it as Gospel.

I stopped caring about being liked around here a long time ago. I have plenty of friends and family who love me. I’ll be fine.
That settlement has nothing to do with the CONVICTION for sexual assault, but you know that.

I didn’t have to rely on a “taped/edited” anything. I saw it live, as it happened. Of course, you know this is true also.

He has, hundreds of times, named his respect and admiration for numerous figures that are self proclaimed white (Christian) nationalists. You know this too.

Your selective manipulation of facts is a true testament to your unnerving love for this Fucking Orange Turd. I guess that gives you some form of comfort.
You definitely live in your own reality. I hope you’re happy there, cuz you’re a long way from the real world.

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:55 pm
by KUTradition
JKLivin wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:49 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:39 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:16 pm

George Stephanopolous had to pay out $15 million for saying he was convicted of rape. That’s a lot of money for saying something that was “true”.

He told the people to “make your voices heard peacefully.” On tape. The unedited version that you apparently never listened to. What some people did with that is their responsibility, not his.

He has never supported White nationalists. In fact, he specifically excluded them from his “very fine people” statement. It’s not my fault that you listen to the edited/clipped version and take it as Gospel.

I stopped caring about being liked around here a long time ago. I have plenty of friends and family who love me. I’ll be fine.
That settlement has nothing to do with the CONVICTION for sexual assault, but you know that.

I didn’t have to rely on a “taped/edited” anything. I saw it live, as it happened. Of course, you know this is true also.

He has, hundreds of times, named his respect and admiration for numerous figures that are self proclaimed white (Christian) nationalists. You know this too.

Your selective manipulation of facts is a true testament to your unnerving love for this Fucking Orange Turd. I guess that gives you some form of comfort.
You definitely live in your own reality. I hope you’re happy there, cuz you’re a long way from the real world.
his reality is shared by most everyone here, and all but the most brainwashed of maga nationally

that you continue to deny as much only proves how far down the rabbit hole YOU are

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:58 pm
by jfish26
JKLivin wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:47 pm
jfish26 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:35 pm "had to" is a load-bearing defect in that post, but ok.
Chose to settle to avoid worse repercussions?
That is true, but probably not in the way you would want to admit.

Re: trump’s promises

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:48 pm
by Overlander
jfish26 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:58 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:47 pm
jfish26 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:35 pm "had to" is a load-bearing defect in that post, but ok.
Chose to settle to avoid worse repercussions?
That is true, but probably not in the way you would want to admit.
He will never “admit” anything.
He has that, among hundreds of other personality defects, in common with Donny J Facepaint.