Kansas Crimson

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:03 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:01 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:52 am Don't need a life altering event. Just one or two small pokes from a needle would get our hospitals and health care system back to operational.

The vast majority of hospitals are operational with available covid ICU beds if needed. Even in the larger first surge prior to vaccines very few ever ran out of space. Few if any people (in our country) died in the parking lot after being refused admittance for medical treatment.

55%ish + of our population is almost 100% protected from needing to go to the hospital for covid treatment. 9 months ago that wasn't the case.

I don't know about rest of country, but it's a huge problem here in KC (and the rest of Missouri), thanks rural Missouri.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:06 am Cox in Springfield has something like 55 hospitalized from COVID, all unvaccinated. That's outrageous and infuriating when you think of all of the consequences.

I wouldn't trust myself to be a big enough person to allow that bullshit were I in charge of a hospital.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:04 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:01 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:56 amStop expecting someone to hold your hand. It's not someone else's responsibility to keep you safe. It's your own personal responsibility.

I think I know what you are trying to say and agree to a point. But, that's just not how any society operates. It's kind of like saying if you don't want to get hit by a dumbass driving 120 MPH on the wrong side of the road, then just don't drive.

If dumbasses driving 120mph on the wrong side of the street was common and i felt it was unsafe for me to drive then i wouldn't drive.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:06 amAre they shipping the rural patients to KC? Are the hospitals in Lake of the Ozarks overflowing?

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:06 am Cox in Springfield has something like 55 hospitalized from COVID, all unvaccinated. That's outrageous and infuriating when you think of all of the consequences.

I wouldn't trust myself to be a big enough person to allow that bullshit were I in charge of a hospital.

So you'd deny medical service to someone based on personal beliefs?

Slippery slope.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:04 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:01 am

I think I know what you are trying to say and agree to a point. But, that's just not how any society operates. It's kind of like saying if you don't want to get hit by a dumbass driving 120 MPH on the wrong side of the road, then just don't drive.

If dumbasses driving 120mph on the wrong side of the street was common and i felt it was unsafe for me to drive then i wouldn't drive.

And a lot of our laws are in place to protect everyone else from the dumbass minority.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:08 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:06 am Cox in Springfield has something like 55 hospitalized from COVID, all unvaccinated. That's outrageous and infuriating when you think of all of the consequences.

I wouldn't trust myself to be a big enough person to allow that bullshit were I in charge of a hospital.

So you'd deny medical service to someone based on personal beliefs?

Slippery slope.

It's not a personal belief. It is a fact that vaccines save lives and are overwhelmingly safe.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:10 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:08 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 am

So you'd deny medical service to someone based on personal beliefs?

Slippery slope.

It's not a personal belief. It is a fact that vaccines save lives and are overwhelmingly safe.

Ok. So you'd deny medical services based on people making life decisions that you don't agree with?

Slippery slope.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:06 am Cox in Springfield has something like 55 hospitalized from COVID, all unvaccinated. That's outrageous and infuriating when you think of all of the consequences.

I wouldn't trust myself to be a big enough person to allow that bullshit were I in charge of a hospital.

So you'd deny medical service to someone based on personal beliefs?

Slippery slope.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:01 am

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:34 am Power to the fungus

folks to the fungus.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:18 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:06 am Cox in Springfield has something like 55 hospitalized from COVID, all unvaccinated. That's outrageous and infuriating when you think of all of the consequences.

I wouldn't trust myself to be a big enough person to allow that bullshit were I in charge of a hospital.

So you'd deny medical service to someone based on personal beliefs?

Slippery slope.

Stop calling it a personal belief.

It's a bad decision pure and simple.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:18 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:06 am Cox in Springfield has something like 55 hospitalized from COVID, all unvaccinated. That's outrageous and infuriating when you think of all of the consequences.

I wouldn't trust myself to be a big enough person to allow that bullshit were I in charge of a hospital.

So you'd deny medical service to someone based on personal beliefs?

Slippery slope.

Stop calling it a personal belief.

It's a bad decision pure and simple.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:01 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:52 am Don't need a life altering event. Just one or two small pokes from a needle would get our hospitals and health care system back to operational.

The vast majority of hospitals are operational with available covid ICU beds if needed. Even in the larger first surge prior to vaccines very few ever ran out of space. Few if any people (in our country) died in the parking lot after being refused admittance for medical treatment.

55%ish + of our population is almost 100% protected from needing to go to the hospital for covid treatment. 9 months ago that wasn't the case.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:20 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:18 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 am

So you'd deny medical service to someone based on personal beliefs?

Slippery slope.

Stop calling it a personal belief.

It's a bad decision pure and simple.

So is using heroin...should we refuse medical services to people who OD?

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:20 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:18 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 am

So you'd deny medical service to someone based on personal beliefs?

Slippery slope.

Stop calling it a personal belief.

It's a bad decision pure and simple.

So is using heroin...should we refuse medical services to people who OD?

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:12 am and trad said i was using duterte example for dramatic effect.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:20 am One that is affecting much more people than just the bad decision maker.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:20 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:18 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 am

So you'd deny medical service to someone based on personal beliefs?

Slippery slope.

Stop calling it a personal belief.

It's a bad decision pure and simple.

One that is affecting much more people than just the bad decision maker.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:23 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:20 am One that is affecting much more people than just the bad decision maker.

not affecting me one drop.

i'm fully vaxxed. living my best life to the fullest. don't care about anyone else but me and my family. we are all fully vaxxed. outside of that, don't care one drop who is or isn't vaxxed.