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Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:15 am
by TDub
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:13 am
TDub wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:10 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:07 am

You have to break some eggs to make an omelet.

The omelet being tee times, boating and haircuts.
Lets just hope they have a bank account.
Twocoach coulda found some shit they were wasting money on.
I tell ya what. Do you think he would consider figure skating lessons as a waste of money that could be eliminated? I sure would.

But, IF, he does, maybe he wouldnt have his extra large bank account we all have to make sacrifices right

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:20 am
by CrimsonNBlue
TDub wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:13 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:07 am
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:06 am I'm sure the 890 who died yesterday agree.
You have to break some eggs to make an omelet.

The omelet being tee times, boating and haircuts.
This is also where I get confused. Not directed at CnB, more at 2coach and a few others.

If haircuts, boating, and golf are no goes, how can a protest where people are shoulder to shoulder shouting, droplets flying ,acceptable.



Yes, im not blind, i understand the reasons,but i can also understand the impact that might have on the spread of this virus.
Yeah, I'm not touching any of that, and I know not directed at me.

My tangent would be that kind of what I thought early on: we should have been told to mask up from the beginning. Beyond the obvious spread of aerosol germs, even the general "feel" and visual that there is a pandemic going on could have maybe kept people away from each other and to take it seriously.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:33 am
by Deleted User 310
Don't touch my tee times! Nobody is catching covid19 on the golf course riding in individual carts and staying away from their playing partners.

I'll check back in when I get done with my afternoon 36holes.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:43 am
by twocoach
TDub wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:13 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:07 am
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:06 am I'm sure the 890 who died yesterday agree.
You have to break some eggs to make an omelet.

The omelet being tee times, boating and haircuts.
This is also where I get confused. Not directed at CnB, more at 2coach and a few others.

If haircuts, boating, and golf are no goes, how can a protest where people are shoulder to shoulder shouting, droplets flying ,acceptable.



Yes, im not blind, i understand the reasons,but i can also understand the impact that might have on the spread of this virus.
Agree that this is a tough call. I definitely would have chosen to participate in the protests if COVID-19 situation was not going on. But it is so I chose not to. While I respect the message the protesters were delivering, there's no way that this isn't going to result in an increase in cases. It's a no-win decision; ignore the problem and not protest and the injustice continues. Protest and the virus spreads. Yuck and yuck.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:46 am
by MICHHAWK
Family spending the day on the boat is a far lesser public health risk than the dopes in dopeytowne. Family spending the day on the golf course is a far lesser public health risk than the dopes in dopeytowne. Yet the dopes in dopeytowne are celebrated. While family is ridiculed. That’s what we call politics as usual.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:48 am
by twocoach
TDub wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:15 am
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:13 am
TDub wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:10 am

Lets just hope they have a bank account.
Twocoach coulda found some shit they were wasting money on.
I tell ya what. Do you think he would consider figure skating lessons as a waste of money that could be eliminated? I sure would.

But, IF, he does, maybe he wouldnt have his extra large bank account we all have to make sacrifices right
Trust me, our family income feels it when the economy tightens. We are fully aware that my wife's income is the "unnecessary" discretionary spending of others. When kids get sick, she is out money. When families have money problems, she is out money. When school ends and people go on vacation, she is out money. We factor all of that into our own family evaluations of our situation that we perform.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:52 am
by twocoach
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:46 am Family spending the day on the boat is a far lesser public health risk than the dopes in dopeytowne. Family spending the day on the golf course is a far lesser public health risk than the dopes in dopeytowne. Yet the dopes in dopeytowne are celebrated. While family is ridiculed. That’s what we call politics as usual.
I dont see much celebration of what's going on in Seattle. I have seen zero conversation about it here. Frankly, the whole thing seems kinda dumb from what little I have seen of it. It reads like a bunch of 20 year olds looking to show how extreme they are. Every generation has had overly dramatic 20 something year olds protesting in an over the top way.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:15 pm
by HouseDivided
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:06 am I'm sure the 890 who died yesterday agree.
Just out of curiosity, how many of those 890 were already past the median age for life expectancy in this country? How many were already dying of pre-existing health conditions? How many were nursing home residents who have nearly non-existent immune systems and are already being protected to the full extent that is possible?

Just giving the numbers - what the “mainstream” media loves to do - gives the impression that 890 poor souls in the prime of life and in great health had fifty years cruelly stolen from them by selfish pigs who won’t stay home and/or wear masks to walk in the park.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:18 pm
by Walrus
HouseDivided wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:15 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:06 am I'm sure the 890 who died yesterday agree.
Just out of curiosity, how many of those 890 were already past the median age for life expectancy in this country? How many were already dying of pre-existing health conditions? How many were nursing home residents who have nearly non-existent immune systems and are already being protected to the full extent that is possible?

Just giving the numbers - what the “mainstream” media loves to do - gives the impression that 890 poor souls in the prime of life and in great health had fifty years cruelly stolen from them by selfish pigs who won’t stay home and/or wear masks to walk in the park.
No, no, you've got it all wrong. They just "report the news."

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:26 pm
by imzcount
HouseDivided wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:15 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:06 am I'm sure the 890 who died yesterday agree.
Just out of curiosity, how many of those 890 were already past the median age for life expectancy in this country? How many were already dying of pre-existing health conditions? How many were nursing home residents who have nearly non-existent immune systems and are already being protected to the full extent that is possible?

Just giving the numbers - what the “mainstream” media loves to do - gives the impression that 890 poor souls in the prime of life and in great health had fifty years cruelly stolen from them by selfish pigs who won’t stay home and/or wear masks to walk in the park.
Also, most of deaths are in nursing homes. While it's sad that people in nursing homes are dying, this is not wide-spread throughout the country. Libs trying to make it sound like it's a zombie movie, but it's more of a light flu with nursing homes inflating the true numbers. And the true spread is obviously from rioters in the streets also being inflamed by the MSM about fake race issues. The whole thing is silly, and nearly took down this country.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:27 pm
by MICHHAWK
Those people outside, going about, wearing a mask, look like idiots.

Leave that to the hollywood elite types please. You look stupid.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:38 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
A quadfecta of posts.

PhD - this is a good argument that it is more than "impatience."

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:43 pm
by twocoach
imzcount wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:26 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:15 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:06 am I'm sure the 890 who died yesterday agree.
Just out of curiosity, how many of those 890 were already past the median age for life expectancy in this country? How many were already dying of pre-existing health conditions? How many were nursing home residents who have nearly non-existent immune systems and are already being protected to the full extent that is possible?

Just giving the numbers - what the “mainstream” media loves to do - gives the impression that 890 poor souls in the prime of life and in great health had fifty years cruelly stolen from them by selfish pigs who won’t stay home and/or wear masks to walk in the park.
Also, most of deaths are in nursing homes. While it's sad that people in nursing homes are dying, this is not wide-spread throughout the country. Libs trying to make it sound like it's a zombie movie, but it's more of a light flu with nursing homes inflating the true numbers. And the true spread is obviously from rioters in the streets also being inflamed by the MSM about fake race issues. The whole thing is silly, and nearly took down this country.
This was updated June 2nd, and it shows 42% in nursing homes or assisted care facilities. So not "most". Not even half.

https://freopp.org/the-covid-19-nursing ... 47433c3f70

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:50 pm
by twocoach
HouseDivided wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:15 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:06 am I'm sure the 890 who died yesterday agree.
Just out of curiosity, how many of those 890 were already past the median age for life expectancy in this country? How many were already dying of pre-existing health conditions? How many were nursing home residents who have nearly non-existent immune systems and are already being protected to the full extent that is possible?

Just giving the numbers - what the “mainstream” media loves to do - gives the impression that 890 poor souls in the prime of life and in great health had fifty years cruelly stolen from them by selfish pigs who won’t stay home and/or wear masks to walk in the park.
States are seeing large spikes in cases in people 30 and younger:

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/16 ... ng-adults/

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/ed ... story.html

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/16/ ... alifornia/

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:07 pm
by PhDhawk
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:38 pm A quadfecta of posts.

PhD - this is a good argument that it is more than "impatience."
Well. It's for sure become political. Which was the point we really got fucked.

#OldLivesDontMatter

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:43 pm
by PhDhawk
twocoach wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:43 pm
imzcount wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:26 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:15 pm

Just out of curiosity, how many of those 890 were already past the median age for life expectancy in this country? How many were already dying of pre-existing health conditions? How many were nursing home residents who have nearly non-existent immune systems and are already being protected to the full extent that is possible?

Just giving the numbers - what the “mainstream” media loves to do - gives the impression that 890 poor souls in the prime of life and in great health had fifty years cruelly stolen from them by selfish pigs who won’t stay home and/or wear masks to walk in the park.
Also, most of deaths are in nursing homes. While it's sad that people in nursing homes are dying, this is not wide-spread throughout the country. Libs trying to make it sound like it's a zombie movie, but it's more of a light flu with nursing homes inflating the true numbers. And the true spread is obviously from rioters in the streets also being inflamed by the MSM about fake race issues. The whole thing is silly, and nearly took down this country.
This was updated June 2nd, and it shows 42% in nursing homes or assisted care facilities. So not "most". Not even half.

https://freopp.org/the-covid-19-nursing ... 47433c3f70
Right. And that's nursing homes and assisted living...not hospice. These aren't necessarily people on their death bed. The average duration of a stay in assisted living is about 2.5 years. A lot of these people might have had another 3,4,5 years. Sometimes you're in a nursing home because of some injury but you're otherwise healthy, they're not filled with people on their death bed. Their lives still fucking matter.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:46 pm
by HouseDivided
twocoach wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:43 pm
imzcount wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:26 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:15 pm

Just out of curiosity, how many of those 890 were already past the median age for life expectancy in this country? How many were already dying of pre-existing health conditions? How many were nursing home residents who have nearly non-existent immune systems and are already being protected to the full extent that is possible?

Just giving the numbers - what the “mainstream” media loves to do - gives the impression that 890 poor souls in the prime of life and in great health had fifty years cruelly stolen from them by selfish pigs who won’t stay home and/or wear masks to walk in the park.
Also, most of deaths are in nursing homes. While it's sad that people in nursing homes are dying, this is not wide-spread throughout the country. Libs trying to make it sound like it's a zombie movie, but it's more of a light flu with nursing homes inflating the true numbers. And the true spread is obviously from rioters in the streets also being inflamed by the MSM about fake race issues. The whole thing is silly, and nearly took down this country.
This was updated June 2nd, and it shows 42% in nursing homes or assisted care facilities. So not "most". Not even half.

https://freopp.org/the-covid-19-nursing ... 47433c3f70
So, we’re down to 58% outside nursing homes. How many were incarcerated? How many are above the median life expectancy? How many were already dying of something else? These are all important contextual questions that the “mainstream” media isn’t asking because the answers don’t fit the narrative.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:46 pm
by MICHHAWK
The country is moving forward in a thoughtful manner. And you’re stuck in the mud spinning your wheels.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:48 pm
by HouseDivided
twocoach wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:50 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:15 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:06 am I'm sure the 890 who died yesterday agree.
Just out of curiosity, how many of those 890 were already past the median age for life expectancy in this country? How many were already dying of pre-existing health conditions? How many were nursing home residents who have nearly non-existent immune systems and are already being protected to the full extent that is possible?

Just giving the numbers - what the “mainstream” media loves to do - gives the impression that 890 poor souls in the prime of life and in great health had fifty years cruelly stolen from them by selfish pigs who won’t stay home and/or wear masks to walk in the park.
States are seeing large spikes in cases in people 30 and younger:

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/16 ... ng-adults/

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/ed ... story.html

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/16/ ... alifornia/
Symptomatic or asymptomatic? Mild or severe? Again, important info that is omitted because advancing the narrative trumps being rational.

Re: COVID-19 numbers

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:50 pm
by HouseDivided
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:43 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:43 pm
imzcount wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:26 pm
Also, most of deaths are in nursing homes. While it's sad that people in nursing homes are dying, this is not wide-spread throughout the country. Libs trying to make it sound like it's a zombie movie, but it's more of a light flu with nursing homes inflating the true numbers. And the true spread is obviously from rioters in the streets also being inflamed by the MSM about fake race issues. The whole thing is silly, and nearly took down this country.
This was updated June 2nd, and it shows 42% in nursing homes or assisted care facilities. So not "most". Not even half.

https://freopp.org/the-covid-19-nursing ... 47433c3f70
Right. And that's nursing homes and assisted living...not hospice. These aren't necessarily people on their death bed. The average duration of a stay in assisted living is about 2.5 years. A lot of these people might have had another 3,4,5 years. Sometimes you're in a nursing home because of some injury but you're otherwise healthy, they're not filled with people on their death bed. Their lives still fucking matter.
Wow, three more years at the end of life vs. the future for people who have to figure out how to survive after an economic collapse for another 50 or 60 years? That makes no sense whatsoever.