Kansas Crimson

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:18 am It truly is crazy that the Chiefs honestly have a switch that they flip and completely dominate a game.

Not only was that good for the Chiefs by doing that in an explosive 15 minutes. But if a team gets up early against the Chiefs, they will now just sit and wonder when the Chiefs will flip the switch and make their run.

Much, if not all of that has to do with the health of 15. When he is healthy he cannot be stopped. His ankle early on was bothering him much more then he probably imagined. You could see it in his mechanics; foot placement, follow through, etc and his inability to climb in the pocket or move horizontally. He was missing throws he normally doesn't. Second quarter he settled down, re-focused and let it rip. That is a scary proposition for the rest of the NFL.

15 is unbelievable and as a long time Chiefs fan you almost have to pinch yourself that he is the Chiefs QB.

I agree. It is rare that fans of an NFL team can watch every single play with the possibility of a single play score.

This cat is rare, and Andy Reid is the best coach to exploit the strength of this offense.

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:52 pm I agree. It is rare that fans of an NFL team can watch every single play with the possibility of a single play score.

This cat is rare, and Andy Reid is the best coach to exploit the strength of this offense.

Yeah it was wild on that TD to Hardman in 3rd and 20.

Romo said before the play, some teams try to be conservative on 3rd and 20, but not KC. And then they threw the bomb.

Alex Smith-led teams would have taken the 10 yard play to Robinson over the middle. Patrick Mahomes-led teams look deep first and throw it there if it's open.

Year 2 of Mahomes and I have almost completely forgot Smith even played for the Chiefs, lol.

Watching other games throughout the NFL and my goodness are we as fans spoiled to have Mahomes and Reid.

Texting with my son during the game. He was raised on Marty ball when you ran a draw on 3rd and 20 and then punted. Mahomie says I got this. Completely different game.

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:19 pm Year 2 of Mahomes and I have almost completely forgot Smith even played for the Chiefs, lol.

Watching other games throughout the NFL and my goodness are we as fans spoiled to have Mahomes and Reid.

As a fan who lived through the Paul Wiggins years, I do not feel spoiled.

I've seen the Pats have Brady, the Colts have Manning, the Broncos have Elway, the Steelers have Big Ben and the Packers have Favre and Rodgers. I wanted for just a couple of seasons to have a QB THAT good for my Chiefs. I've been frustrated with Grbac, Huard, Cassell, Palko, Thigpen, and Quinn. We got a jump in productivity with Smith, but then Mahomes was drafted and showed unbelievable promise in the preseason and in the week 17 game at Denver that the Chiefs had to make that move and good thing they did!

I now have THAT QB for my team for the next 15 years or so. I watched Wentz and Ryan Sunday night, 2 both above average QBs and they are so far below Mahomes it isn't funny.

Rumors are that the Chiefs are becoming the front runner in the Ramsey sweepstakes.

After not being heavily involved recently, it seems that the players want him and the Chiefs want him to solidify the secondary.

Chiefs will have to give up 1st round pick, but guess what, the only 1st round pick they've had in the last 4 years has been Mahomes. They don't need 1st rounders now, they need win-now players.

The problem with Ramsey is not the attitude, or the pick cost, it's that you really can't afford to keep him around after this year, not unless you're willing to let go of Jones (or trade Hill).

Do you deal Ramsey again over the spring and hope to recoup some of the draft capital you spent to get him?

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:19 pm Year 2 of Mahomes and I have almost completely forgot Smith even played for the Chiefs, lol.

Watching other games throughout the NFL and my goodness are we as fans spoiled to have Mahomes and Reid.

As a fan of the team that drafted Todd Freaking Blackledge ahead of Jim Kelly and Dan Marino and who suffered through starts by Alex Smith, Nick Foles, Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn, Tyler Palko, Kyle Orton, Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen and Damon Huard since our last decent QB in Trent Green was released in 2007, Kansas City fans arent "spoiled".

We're freaking "due" getting a guy like Mahomes.

You trade for Ramsey and deal with the consequences later. The Chiefs are about to become a destination team for the next 10-12 years. They’ll be able to attract free agents easily.

If Ramsey becomes a diva/problem during the off-season, you cut him or trade him for a 4th round pick and move on

Yeah. I mean he's a year and a half rental at most. He's for sure going to be here in 2020. Can tag Jones and still sign Mahomes to big extension this offseason. What helped the Chiefs big time was Hill signing a relatively low extension. That allowed them to have more flexibility with Jones and Mahomes.

Chiefs are officially in an arms race with New England. The rest of the NFL is seemingly falling apart.

You go after the Fitzpatrick's and the Ramsey's. Even if it means trading Hill.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:32 am You trade for Ramsey and deal with the consequences later. The Chiefs are about to become a destination team for the next 10-12 years. They’ll be able to attract free agents easily.

If Ramsey becomes a diva/problem during the off-season, you cut him or trade him for a 4th round pick and move on

I think the real solution is for Mahomes' girlfriend's company to sign a 10-year, $300 million deal to consult on athletic training matters.

That's legal, New England says so.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:37 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:32 am You trade for Ramsey and deal with the consequences later. The Chiefs are about to become a destination team for the next 10-12 years. They’ll be able to attract free agents easily.

If Ramsey becomes a diva/problem during the off-season, you cut him or trade him for a 4th round pick and move on

I think the real solution is for Mahomes' girlfriend's company to sign a 10-year, $300 million deal to consult on athletic training matters.

That's legal, New England says so.

That’s perfectly fine with me.

I do wonder what Mahomes’ next contract will look like. If he wants it, he could probably get 45M a year. I’m just not sure what he wants

Yeah, you HAVE to match what New England did with adding Gordon and AB. The Chiefs offense is still better, but the defense has to be better because New England's defense is top notch.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:56 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:37 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:32 am You trade for Ramsey and deal with the consequences later. The Chiefs are about to become a destination team for the next 10-12 years. They’ll be able to attract free agents easily.

If Ramsey becomes a diva/problem during the off-season, you cut him or trade him for a 4th round pick and move on

I think the real solution is for Mahomes' girlfriend's company to sign a 10-year, $300 million deal to consult on athletic training matters.

That's legal, New England says so.

That’s perfectly fine with me.

I do wonder what Mahomes’ next contract will look like. If he wants it, he could probably get 45M a year. I’m just not sure what he wants

He'll be the first $200M man in the NFL. I do think his next contract will be massive, then he'll pull a Brady and do less than market value contracts to get top talent as he gets older.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:56 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:37 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:32 am You trade for Ramsey and deal with the consequences later. The Chiefs are about to become a destination team for the next 10-12 years. They’ll be able to attract free agents easily.

If Ramsey becomes a diva/problem during the off-season, you cut him or trade him for a 4th round pick and move on

I think the real solution is for Mahomes' girlfriend's company to sign a 10-year, $300 million deal to consult on athletic training matters.

That's legal, New England says so.

That’s perfectly fine with me.

I do wonder what Mahomes’ next contract will look like. If he wants it, he could probably get 45M a year. I’m just not sure what he wants

Practically speaking, it can look like whatever Mahomes wants it to look like.

I see/hear enough smoke to suggest that there might be a desire to do something new - something like 3/$120 guaranteed, with rolling 2/$XX player options thereafter. I think there's a push to be able to pivot to an NBA-style max contract if the CBA is renegotiated to contemplate it (or another scenario where the salary can rise with the cap).

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:59 am Yeah, you HAVE to match what New England did with adding Gordon and AB. The Chiefs offense is still better, but the defense has to be better because New England's defense is top notch.

Maybe? They've played teams that may well pick 1-2 in April.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:04 pm

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:56 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:37 am

I think the real solution is for Mahomes' girlfriend's company to sign a 10-year, $300 million deal to consult on athletic training matters.

That's legal, New England says so.

That’s perfectly fine with me.

I do wonder what Mahomes’ next contract will look like. If he wants it, he could probably get 45M a year. I’m just not sure what he wants

Practically speaking, it can look like whatever Mahomes wants it to look like.

I see/hear enough smoke to suggest that there might be a desire to do something new - something like 3/$120 guaranteed, with rolling 2/$XX player options thereafter. I think there's a push to be able to pivot to an NBA-style max contract if the CBA is renegotiated to contemplate it (or another scenario where the salary can rise with the cap).

I agree, but I’m not sure the NFL will ever have a MAX contract like the NBA . There are too many non-quarterbacks in the league to get that kind of support from everyone in the NFLPA. The QB’s are essentially the 1 percenters of the NFL.