Kansas Crimson

Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:52 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:47 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:42 am i should also add that the chance of covid jumping back to humans from an intermediate poses a serious enough concern for governmental bodies in the UK to warn about it

But it is possible that the UK doesn't like food.

Mmm, mutton pie...

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:52 am Of all the legitimate concerns with covid it seems asinine to worry about something with such a miniscule threat and something that is essentially uncontrollable

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:22 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:52 am Of all the legitimate concerns with covid it seems asinine to worry about something with such a miniscule threat and something that is essentially uncontrollable

except that mechanism is essentially why we have the pandemic in the first place

if anything, it should give even more justification for getting vaccinated and pressuring/convincing more people to do the same

i’ll be perfectly honest though, i told my wife more than a year ago that this thing could spiral out of control and kick humanity’s ass. now, i’m fairly well convinced that there is a limit to what covid can actually evolve into, but seeing the US and global response in this case gives me little comfort that the right lessons will be learned to better mitigate the next case (and make no mistake, there are more coming)

shindig wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:31 am New corporate communications update regarding return to the workplace. Oh boy.

"With employee and community safety in mind, we are postponing the date to return remote workers to the office – we will not begin after Sept. 6 as previously planned. We will continue to monitor the data and follow up with employees in late October to announce a new anticipated return date. We will not return before Dec. 1".

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:33 am

shindig wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:31 am New corporate communications update regarding return to the workplace. Oh boy.

"With employee and community safety in mind, we are postponing the date to return remote workers to the office – we will not begin after Sept. 6 as previously planned. We will continue to monitor the data and follow up with employees in late October to announce a new anticipated return date. We will not return before Dec. 1".

That sorta sounds like a win

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:22 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:52 am Of all the legitimate concerns with covid it seems asinine to worry about something with such a miniscule threat and something that is essentially uncontrollable

except that mechanism is essentially why we have the pandemic in the first place

if anything, it should give even more justification for getting vaccinated and pressuring/convincing more people to do the same

i’ll be perfectly honest though, i told my wife more than a year ago that this thing could spiral out of control and kick humanity’s ass. now, i’m fairly well convinced that there is a limit to what covid can actually evolve into, but seeing the US and global response in this case gives me little comfort that the right lessons will be learned to better mitigate the next case (and make no mistake, there are more coming)

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:33 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:22 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:52 am Of all the legitimate concerns with covid it seems asinine to worry about something with such a miniscule threat and something that is essentially uncontrollable

except that mechanism is essentially why we have the pandemic in the first place

if anything, it should give even more justification for getting vaccinated and pressuring/convincing more people to do the same

i’ll be perfectly honest though, i told my wife more than a year ago that this thing could spiral out of control and kick humanity’s ass. now, i’m fairly well convinced that there is a limit to what covid can actually evolve into, but seeing the US and global response in this case gives me little comfort that the right lessons will be learned to better mitigate the next case (and make no mistake, there are more coming)

Normal western farming practices is NOT how we ended up with this in the first place. Unsanitary, wet markets with a million of people and various exotic animals smashed together is how we ended up with this.....or it was heing studied in a lab...depending on who knows what....not standard western animal/human interaction.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:43 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:22 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:52 am Of all the legitimate concerns with covid it seems asinine to worry about something with such a miniscule threat and something that is essentially uncontrollable

except that mechanism is essentially why we have the pandemic in the first place

if anything, it should give even more justification for getting vaccinated and pressuring/convincing more people to do the same

i’ll be perfectly honest though, i told my wife more than a year ago that this thing could spiral out of control and kick humanity’s ass. now, i’m fairly well convinced that there is a limit to what covid can actually evolve into, but seeing the US and global response in this case gives me little comfort that the right lessons will be learned to better mitigate the next case (and make no mistake, there are more coming)

A friend of mine and I spoke at the beginning of all this. He was not overly exercised, as he said he expected us to be done within a handful of generations anyway (why he's not having kids).

I laughed it off. "Spicy take, man."

The last 18 months has made me reconsider. I'm not sure I'd go with "handful of generations," but it is impossible to have any confidence right now that people are capable of the collective lift it's going to take on climate change.

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:38 am This will change how office staff work for good i think. Goodbye class A office towers.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:46 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:33 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:22 am
except that mechanism is essentially why we have the pandemic in the first place

if anything, it should give even more justification for getting vaccinated and pressuring/convincing more people to do the same

i’ll be perfectly honest though, i told my wife more than a year ago that this thing could spiral out of control and kick humanity’s ass. now, i’m fairly well convinced that there is a limit to what covid can actually evolve into, but seeing the US and global response in this case gives me little comfort that the right lessons will be learned to better mitigate the next case (and make no mistake, there are more coming)

Normal western farming practices is NOT how we ended up with this in the first place. Unsanitary, wet markets with a million of people and various exotic animals smashed together is how we ended up with this.....or it was heing studied in a lab...depending on who knows what....not standard western animal/human interaction.

zoonotic spillover is what i was referring to, not western farming/ranching

and there is ample evidence to suggest that the commercial meat industry may very well be the source of a future pandemic...crowded conditions, irresponsible use of antibiotics, etc

i’m not saying you support that part of the industry (i don’t think you do), but you can’t pretend it doesn’t exist and is a major component

shindig wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:50 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:38 am This will change how office staff work for good i think. Goodbye class A office towers.

Kansas City is building a new 18 story class A office tower downtown right now. I bet a lot of these towers get converted to residential in the next decade or so.

TDub wrote: Also could open up more, already empty, land for grazing. Spread them out a bit and gain the other benefits that allows...

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:12 pm Weve been eating meat as often as possible since we became bipedal. When we had to hunt for every meal it, of course, resulted in less meat consumption....but it wasnt because we didnt want it. Hunter gatherers ate a variety if whatever they could find...but its not like they were turning down meat because they were worried about kidney function.

shindig wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:50 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:38 am This will change how office staff work for good i think. Goodbye class A office towers.

Kansas City is building a new 18 story class A office tower downtown right now. I bet a lot of these towers get converted to residential in the next decade or so.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:26 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:12 pm Weve been eating meat as often as possible since we became bipedal. When we had to hunt for every meal it, of course, resulted in less meat consumption....but it wasnt because we didnt want it. Hunter gatherers ate a variety if whatever they could find...but its not like they were turning down meat because they were worried about kidney function.

want has nothing to do with it from an evolutionary perspective

our bodies evolved to accommodate the resources that were available. meat availability has outpaced our rate of metabolic adaptation

again, i’m not saying we should stop eating meat. i’m saying we need to get over this idea that we need it or have to have it for every meal

it would do our bodies and the environment wonders if we were to have it more sporadically