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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:41 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:32 pm Also, shout out to the two secret service agents who had to sit in an enclosed vehicle driving around their contagious dumbfuck in charge, cuz now they both have to quarantine

Is this true or speculation?

Yes, it is true.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/05/politics ... index.html

"That should never have happened," one current Secret Service agent who works on the presidential and first family detail said after Trump's drive-by, adding that those agents who went along for the ride would now be required to quarantine.
"I mean, I wouldn't want to be around them," the agent said, expressing a view that multiple people at the Secret Service also voiced in the wake of Sunday's appearance. "The frustration with how we're treated when it comes to decisions on this illness goes back before this though. We're not disposable."
Another veteran Secret Service agent also expressed deep dismay at the Walter Reed ride, though was sympathetic for those around the President given the difficulty in pushing back on the commander-in-chief.
"You can't say no," the agent said.

Trump supporters don't care anyway. I don't believe there are many undecided voters at this point after 4 years of his crap. You are either against the divisiveness or you aren't. I truly believe anyone who is polled and says they are undecided are 100% voting for trump and will never admit to anyone that is who they are voting for.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:41 am Trump supporters don't care anyway. I don't believe there are many undecided voters at this point after 4 years of his crap. You are either against the divisiveness or you aren't. I truly believe anyone who is polled and says they are undecided are 100% voting for trump and will never admit to anyone that is who they are voting for.

This poll estimated the number of undecideds at around 10-11% of all eligible voters. Believe it or don't. There's enough of them out there that they shouldn't be presumed not to exist.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/ ... daf6482eed

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:14 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:41 am Trump supporters don't care anyway. I don't believe there are many undecided voters at this point after 4 years of his crap. You are either against the divisiveness or you aren't. I truly believe anyone who is polled and says they are undecided are 100% voting for trump and will never admit to anyone that is who they are voting for.

This poll estimated the number of undecideds at around 10-11% of all eligible voters. Believe it or don't. There's enough of them out there that they shouldn't be presumed not to exist.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/ ... daf6482eed

I have seen the polls....like i said, i think people are embarrassed to admit they are going to vote for him again. So they either lie or magically change their mind once they get in the voting booth. The polls were wrong last time and this is a big reason why imo.

I just don't see any logical reason that a person could be undecided (at this point) on the 2 main choices we have.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:59 am President Covid is on some good meds. Check out his Twitter timeline... Yikes.

Actually, turns out that was Dan Scavino tweeting for him, so I don't think we've heard from him since his joyride yesterday.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:26 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:14 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:41 am Trump supporters don't care anyway. I don't believe there are many undecided voters at this point after 4 years of his crap. You are either against the divisiveness or you aren't. I truly believe anyone who is polled and says they are undecided are 100% voting for trump and will never admit to anyone that is who they are voting for.

This poll estimated the number of undecideds at around 10-11% of all eligible voters. Believe it or don't. There's enough of them out there that they shouldn't be presumed not to exist.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/ ... daf6482eed

I have seen the polls....like i said, i think people are embarrassed to admit they are going to vote for him again. So they either lie or magically change their mind once they get in the voting booth. The polls were wrong last time and this is a big reason why imo.

I just don't see any logical reason that a person could be undecided (at this point) on the 2 main choices we have.

The polls weren't wrong. They were just misinterpreted.

A poll is a snapshot in time, not a predictor. It's like a report of the score throughout a game. With 8:56 to go in the 4th, the Lakers were winning 91-89. If you attempt to use that point in time to predict that the Lakers would win then that doesn't mean the score was wrong. It just means you applied the information you were given wrong.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:23 am

Certain things in Trumpland are quite reliable. One is that decisions will always always always be made through the lens of "what will make me happiest within the next 48-72 hours?"

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:37 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:26 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:14 am
This poll estimated the number of undecideds at around 10-11% of all eligible voters. Believe it or don't. There's enough of them out there that they shouldn't be presumed not to exist.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/ ... daf6482eed

I have seen the polls....like i said, i think people are embarrassed to admit they are going to vote for him again. So they either lie or magically change their mind once they get in the voting booth. The polls were wrong last time and this is a big reason why imo.

I just don't see any logical reason that a person could be undecided (at this point) on the 2 main choices we have.

The polls weren't wrong. They were just misinterpreted.

A poll is a snapshot in time, not a predictor.

You’re arguing with an emotional closeted trumper. He’s also a fucking idiot

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:37 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:26 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:14 am
This poll estimated the number of undecideds at around 10-11% of all eligible voters. Believe it or don't. There's enough of them out there that they shouldn't be presumed not to exist.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/ ... daf6482eed

I have seen the polls....like i said, i think people are embarrassed to admit they are going to vote for him again. So they either lie or magically change their mind once they get in the voting booth. The polls were wrong last time and this is a big reason why imo.

I just don't see any logical reason that a person could be undecided (at this point) on the 2 main choices we have.

The polls weren't wrong. They were just misinterpreted.

A poll is a snapshot in time, not a predictor.

People focused on national polls, which had Clinton up 3.6% in the popular vote, where Clinton won by 2.1%. There is always going to be discrepancies, but where Trump over-performed happened to be three states that Clinton needed.

There is no shy Trump voter. That has been proven. And being up 8-plus points put this race closer to 1984 territory than anything else. Obviously it won't be that big of a landslide, but 8 points on the national polls is close to the generic ballots of 2018 midterms, which was a historic election for the Dems in the house.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:41 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:37 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:26 am

I have seen the polls....like i said, i think people are embarrassed to admit they are going to vote for him again. So they either lie or magically change their mind once they get in the voting booth. The polls were wrong last time and this is a big reason why imo.

I just don't see any logical reason that a person could be undecided (at this point) on the 2 main choices we have.

The polls weren't wrong. They were just misinterpreted.

A poll is a snapshot in time, not a predictor.

You’re arguing with an emotional closeted trumper. He’s also a fucking idiot

Nah, he's just paralyzed by a desire to see all sides of things.

Some people, when lost in the woods, can assess the situation, evaluate the relevant information, ignore the unimportant details and get themselves to safety.

Others notice every leaf on every tree and are paralyzed with the overwhelming amount of information. They tend to just sit there confused, hoping that someone else will come save them.

NiceDC wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:42 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:37 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:26 am

I have seen the polls....like i said, i think people are embarrassed to admit they are going to vote for him again. So they either lie or magically change their mind once they get in the voting booth. The polls were wrong last time and this is a big reason why imo.

I just don't see any logical reason that a person could be undecided (at this point) on the 2 main choices we have.

The polls weren't wrong. They were just misinterpreted.

A poll is a snapshot in time, not a predictor.

People focused on national polls, which had Clinton up 3.6% in the popular vote, where Clinton won by 2.1%. There is always going to be discrepancies, but where Trump over-performed happened to be three states that Clinton needed.

There is no shy Trump voter. That has been proven. And being up 8-plus points put this race closer to 1984 territory than anything else. Obviously it won't be that big of a landslide, but 8 points on the national polls is close to the generic ballots of 2018 midterms, which was a historic election for the Dems in the house.

Right. I think what you're getting at is that Trump won in 2016 by the slimmest of margins. Since then, he's only lost support. The remaining core is highly unlikely to (without tricks) even make the election competitive.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:59 am President Covid is on some good meds. Check out his Twitter timeline... Yikes.

Here is one to ponder. I don't know what drug/s he's actually on (or not on) because frankly I don't believe anybody or anything regarding Donald Trump but supposedly he is NOT on nor taken Hydroxychloroquine.
Gee.... Why not? What did/does he have to lose by taking it?

Does potus even have Covid 19?


Or is it just Covfefe 19?

If you are honest with yourself, what % of Dems were hoping he would just die?

If he dies we will miss the satisfaction of seeing him perpwalked to the clink. So, no, “we” don’t want him to die.

Haha fair enough...but it is silly to think he doesn't at least have a chance to beat Biden. I don't think this is as in the bag as people seem to think.