Kansas Crimson

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:46 pm

shindig wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:50 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:38 am This will change how office staff work for good i think. Goodbye class A office towers.

Kansas City is building a new 18 story class A office tower downtown right now. I bet a lot of these towers get converted to residential in the next decade or so.

According to friend in KC acquisition/development biz, COVID has not and is not slowing it down. (I still think it will, though).

What was occurring before COVID--people increasingly moving to the cities--who knows if that trend continues after.

shindig wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:36 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:46 pm

shindig wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:50 am

Kansas City is building a new 18 story class A office tower downtown right now. I bet a lot of these towers get converted to residential in the next decade or so.

According to friend in KC acquisition/development biz, COVID has not and is not slowing it down. (I still think it will, though).

What was occurring before COVID--people increasingly moving to the cities--who knows if that trend continues after.

Yeah, hard to say. I think they just started on the 3 Light residential tower downtown and heard they were going to start 4 Light this Fall, so who knows. But residential is probably the best bet right now. It seems everything they build from the Rivermarket to the Plaza fills up quick.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:44 pm

shindig wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:36 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:46 pm

According to friend in KC acquisition/development biz, COVID has not and is not slowing it down. (I still think it will, though).

What was occurring before COVID--people increasingly moving to the cities--who knows if that trend continues after.

Yeah, hard to say. I think they just started on the 3 Light residential tower downtown and heard they were going to start 4 Light this Fall, so who knows. But residential is probably the best bet right now. It seems everything they build from the Rivermarket to the Plaza fills up quick.

They can't build residential fast enough.

Commercial is a different story. I don't know enough of the details, but I'd be looking to sue the crap out of Waddell & Reed's new parent company.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:43 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:22 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:52 am Of all the legitimate concerns with covid it seems asinine to worry about something with such a miniscule threat and something that is essentially uncontrollable

except that mechanism is essentially why we have the pandemic in the first place

if anything, it should give even more justification for getting vaccinated and pressuring/convincing more people to do the same

i’ll be perfectly honest though, i told my wife more than a year ago that this thing could spiral out of control and kick humanity’s ass. now, i’m fairly well convinced that there is a limit to what covid can actually evolve into, but seeing the US and global response in this case gives me little comfort that the right lessons will be learned to better mitigate the next case (and make no mistake, there are more coming)

A friend of mine and I spoke at the beginning of all this. He was not overly exercised, as he said he expected us to be done within a handful of generations anyway (why he's not having kids).

I laughed it off. "Spicy take, man."

The last 18 months has made me reconsider. I'm not sure I'd go with "handful of generations," but it is impossible to have any confidence right now that people are capable of the collective lift it's going to take on climate change.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:28 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:43 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:22 am
except that mechanism is essentially why we have the pandemic in the first place

if anything, it should give even more justification for getting vaccinated and pressuring/convincing more people to do the same

i’ll be perfectly honest though, i told my wife more than a year ago that this thing could spiral out of control and kick humanity’s ass. now, i’m fairly well convinced that there is a limit to what covid can actually evolve into, but seeing the US and global response in this case gives me little comfort that the right lessons will be learned to better mitigate the next case (and make no mistake, there are more coming)

A friend of mine and I spoke at the beginning of all this. He was not overly exercised, as he said he expected us to be done within a handful of generations anyway (why he's not having kids).

I laughed it off. "Spicy take, man."

The last 18 months has made me reconsider. I'm not sure I'd go with "handful of generations," but it is impossible to have any confidence right now that people are capable of the collective lift it's going to take on climate change.

I think in the next 2,000ish years a large portion (25%+) of the world will die from something. I wouldn't be shocked if we have gone largely extinct within the next 30,000 years. At least on this planet.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:28 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:43 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:22 am
except that mechanism is essentially why we have the pandemic in the first place

if anything, it should give even more justification for getting vaccinated and pressuring/convincing more people to do the same

i’ll be perfectly honest though, i told my wife more than a year ago that this thing could spiral out of control and kick humanity’s ass. now, i’m fairly well convinced that there is a limit to what covid can actually evolve into, but seeing the US and global response in this case gives me little comfort that the right lessons will be learned to better mitigate the next case (and make no mistake, there are more coming)

A friend of mine and I spoke at the beginning of all this. He was not overly exercised, as he said he expected us to be done within a handful of generations anyway (why he's not having kids).

I laughed it off. "Spicy take, man."

The last 18 months has made me reconsider. I'm not sure I'd go with "handful of generations," but it is impossible to have any confidence right now that people are capable of the collective lift it's going to take on climate change.

I think in the next 2,000ish years a large portion (25%+) of the world will die from something. I wouldn't be shocked if we have gone largely extinct within the next 30,000 years. At least on this planet.

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:26 pm Better get goin on the wormholes and figure out how to take advantage of the folding of space and time.....because i dont see Mars being the answet for large scale habitation. Unless youre looking for living in pods and not being able to move about outside your pod. If it comes to that ill be happy to be dead by then.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:21 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:26 pm Better get goin on the wormholes and figure out how to take advantage of the folding of space and time.....because i dont see Mars being the answet for large scale habitation. Unless youre looking for living in pods and not being able to move about outside your pod. If it comes to that ill be happy to be dead by then.

2,000 years ago we thought the sun orbited the earth and we had no accurate mapping of our entire planet. Now we can drive a remote controlled car around on the surface of Mars. I suspect that a lot will change over the next 2,000 years.

TDub wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:32 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:21 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:26 pm Better get goin on the wormholes and figure out how to take advantage of the folding of space and time.....because i dont see Mars being the answet for large scale habitation. Unless youre looking for living in pods and not being able to move about outside your pod. If it comes to that ill be happy to be dead by then.

2,000 years ago we thought the sun orbited the earth and we had no accurate mapping of our entire planet. Now we can drive a remote controlled car around on the surface of Mars. I suspect that a lot will change over the next 2,000 years.

Oh i agree. But i wonder if it will move to "us" living mainly in a digital world via our "brains" living in some matrix style world where we all "exist" in some sort of server farm where our resource consumption is minimal as opposed to us figuring out how to endure galactic travel.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:49 am

TDub wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:32 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:21 am

2,000 years ago we thought the sun orbited the earth and we had no accurate mapping of our entire planet. Now we can drive a remote controlled car around on the surface of Mars. I suspect that a lot will change over the next 2,000 years.

Oh i agree. But i wonder if it will move to "us" living mainly in a digital world via our "brains" living in some matrix style world where we all "exist" in some sort of server farm where our resource consumption is minimal as opposed to us figuring out how to endure galactic travel.

Lots of "what if's". I wish I could come back 2000 years from now and see it just as I wish I could go back 2000 years in the past to see what life was like back then.