Kansas Crimson

More on topic, I really tend to think that if AI gets advanced enough to helping us inhabit new planets that it certainly will not stop there. I don't see why AI would need us anymore.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:54 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:49 am

TDub wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:32 am

Oh i agree. But i wonder if it will move to "us" living mainly in a digital world via our "brains" living in some matrix style world where we all "exist" in some sort of server farm where our resource consumption is minimal as opposed to us figuring out how to endure galactic travel.

Lots of "what if's". I wish I could come back 2000 years from now and see it just as I wish I could go back 2000 years in the past to see what life was like back then.

hahaha...this is a hilarious series of exchanges

no way in hell humans make it another 2000 years. too many misguided, fucked up priorities

You vastly underestimate the power of a living organism's desire to propagate and survive. Homo sapiens have walked this earth for more than 300,000 years, surviving unimaginable hurdles to continue to do so yet here we are chuckling about it on an electronic device that allows people all over the world to join the conversation.

Life finds a way.

Oh shit I missed lobster?!

I saw 99 thank Pdub for the cleanup but wasn’t sure what it was for…figured he musta just spilled his drink at the sat shack or something

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:24 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:54 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:49 am
Lots of "what if's". I wish I could come back 2000 years from now and see it just as I wish I could go back 2000 years in the past to see what life was like back then.

hahaha...this is a hilarious series of exchanges

no way in hell humans make it another 2000 years. too many misguided, fucked up priorities

You vastly underestimate the power of a living organism's desire to propagate and survive. Homo sapiens have walked this earth for more than 300,000 years, surviving unimaginable hurdles to continue to do so yet here we are chuckling about it on an electronic device that allows people all over the world to join the conversation.

Life finds a way.

Well said Dr. Malcolm, but you also seem to give a lot of benefit of doubt in assuming Homo sapiens will be able to survive Homo sapiens

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:24 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:54 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:49 am
Lots of "what if's". I wish I could come back 2000 years from now and see it just as I wish I could go back 2000 years in the past to see what life was like back then.

hahaha...this is a hilarious series of exchanges

no way in hell humans make it another 2000 years. too many misguided, fucked up priorities

You vastly underestimate the power of a living organism's desire to propagate and survive. Homo sapiens have walked this earth for more than 300,000 years, surviving unimaginable hurdles to continue to do so yet here we are chuckling about it on an electronic device that allows people all over the world to join the conversation.

Life finds a way.

Given the latest climate change report, it seems the dinosaurs had a much more successful run.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:24 am More on topic, I really tend to think that if AI gets advanced enough to helping us inhabit new planets that it certainly will not stop there. I don't see why AI would need us anymore.

Plano has some story about buddies who work in AI…how’s it go?

Something like, two AI robots have 3 oranges a piece, and are programmed to try and negotiate/take the other’s oranges until one has all 6.

Within the first couple minutes, the AI starts cheating and trying to find ways beyond the programmed terms of the game to win.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:24 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:54 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:49 am
Lots of "what if's". I wish I could come back 2000 years from now and see it just as I wish I could go back 2000 years in the past to see what life was like back then.

hahaha...this is a hilarious series of exchanges

no way in hell humans make it another 2000 years. too many misguided, fucked up priorities

You vastly underestimate the power of a living organism's desire to propagate and survive. Homo sapiens have walked this earth for more than 300,000 years, surviving unimaginable hurdles to continue to do so yet here we are chuckling about it on an electronic device that allows people all over the world to join the conversation.

Life finds a way.

Sure life finds a way. Just maybe not human life.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:28 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:24 am More on topic, I really tend to think that if AI gets advanced enough to helping us inhabit new planets that it certainly will not stop there. I don't see why AI would need us anymore.

Plano has some story about buddies who work in AI…how’s it go?

Something like, two AI robots have 3 oranges a piece, and are programmed to try and negotiate/take the other’s oranges until one has all 6.

Within the first couple minutes, the AI starts cheating and trying to find ways beyond the programmed terms of the game to win.

Never heard that story, but my guess is it follows some sort of logic where if AI is programmed to have 6 oranges, then it is going to do everything possible to get 6 oranges. Pretty scary when you extrapolate that out.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:24 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:54 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:49 am
Lots of "what if's". I wish I could come back 2000 years from now and see it just as I wish I could go back 2000 years in the past to see what life was like back then.

hahaha...this is a hilarious series of exchanges

no way in hell humans make it another 2000 years. too many misguided, fucked up priorities

You vastly underestimate the power of a living organism's desire to propagate and survive. Homo sapiens have walked this earth for more than 300,000 years, surviving unimaginable hurdles to continue to do so yet here we are chuckling about it on an electronic device that allows people all over the world to join the conversation.

Life finds a way.

ok, ian malcolm

you say that as if i’m unaware of our evolution and what we’ve overcome

i’m fully aware

i just see our species constantly toiling over relatively inconsequential thing's while existential threats loom

the technology you reference is a big part of the problem, imo, as it has not only keeps us distracted, but also further disconnects us from the world around us

i hope i’m wrong, but i just don’t see humanity coming together to right the ship

the one inkling of hope that i see, is that technology is on a more log-growth-like, rather than linear, progression. but even there, it’s so incredibly dangerous to rely on technologies that haven’t been invented or proven yet, rather than just changing our behavior

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:24 am More on topic, I really tend to think that if AI gets advanced enough to helping us inhabit new planets that it certainly will not stop there. I don't see why AI would need us anymore.

Judgement Day

I dont think it's out of the question, if really pressed, to invent something that would reverse the damage we have done to the climate.

Splitting the atom and using the energy safely and cleanly or cold fusion for renewable energy.

dammit, Ousie

Theyve apparently been trying to seed clouds for decades to stop droughts. But thats a symptom of the disease not the disease.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:24 am More on topic, I really tend to think that if AI gets advanced enough to helping us inhabit new planets that it certainly will not stop there. I don't see why AI would need us anymore.

Please see the acclaimed 1999 documentary, The Matrix.

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:36 am I dont think it's out of the question, if really pressed, to invent something that would reverse the damage we have done to the climate.

Splitting the atom and using the energy safely and cleanly or cold fusion for renewable energy.

it’s definitely not out of the question, or beyond our ability

but such things have to be THE priority, imo. they can’t just be part of some academic endeavor of curiosity

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:39 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:24 am More on topic, I really tend to think that if AI gets advanced enough to helping us inhabit new planets that it certainly will not stop there. I don't see why AI would need us anymore.

Please see the acclaimed 1999 documentary, The Matrix.

That doc definitely changed my end-of-world theory that I developed after seeing the 1998 doc, Armageddon.

TDub wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:39 am Theyve apparently been trying to seed clouds for decades to stop droughts. But thats a symptom of the disease not the disease.

thanks for the reminder

saw a headline a few weeks ago about scientists in Dubai (i think) using drones and electrical charge to elicit rain from clouds by causing particles to aggregate into drops big enough that they wouldn’t evaporate before making landfall

meant to look into it more but it slipped my mind

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:44 am

TDub wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:39 am Theyve apparently been trying to seed clouds for decades to stop droughts. But thats a symptom of the disease not the disease.

thanks for the reminder

saw a headline a few weeks ago about scientists in Dubai (i think) using drones and electrical charge to elicit rain from clouds by causing particles to aggregate into drops big enough that they wouldn’t evaporate before making landfall

meant to look into it more but it slipped my mind

Here ya go: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 040330002/

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:43 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:39 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:24 am More on topic, I really tend to think that if AI gets advanced enough to helping us inhabit new planets that it certainly will not stop there. I don't see why AI would need us anymore.

Please see the acclaimed 1999 documentary, The Matrix.

That doc definitely changed my end-of-world theory that I developed after seeing the 1998 doc, Armageddon.

Just wait until you see biodome.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:46 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:44 am

TDub wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:39 am Theyve apparently been trying to seed clouds for decades to stop droughts. But thats a symptom of the disease not the disease.

thanks for the reminder

saw a headline a few weeks ago about scientists in Dubai (i think) using drones and electrical charge to elicit rain from clouds by causing particles to aggregate into drops big enough that they wouldn’t evaporate before making landfall

meant to look into it more but it slipped my mind

Here ya go: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 040330002/

kudos to them for trying, but in a sense they took water from a locale that would have otherwise gotten actual rain, naturally

put another way, they could probably do that in eastern colorado, but what impacts would it have on Kansas?