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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:16 am
by Mjl
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:04 am Taxes play into it too. So does defunding police crime. People just want to escape failed liberal policies in general
Where did they defund the police?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:18 am
by ousdahl
Yeah, wrong thread, but I’ve been seeing headlines about how the whole defund the police movement got thrown out in favor of more funding and doubling down on the same old policing practices.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:19 am
by randylahey
Mjl wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:16 am
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:04 am Taxes play into it too. So does defunding police crime. People just want to escape failed liberal policies in general
Where did they defund the police?
NY cut their budget by about a billion dollars. Then coincidentally crime has skyrocketed since. Lots of people have left and aren't coming back

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:19 am
by Deleted User 89
poor randy

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:19 am
by CrimsonNBlue
ousdahl wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:18 am Yeah, wrong thread, but I’ve been seeing headlines about how the whole defund the police movement got thrown out in favor of more funding and doubling down on the same old policing practices.
Infrastructure bill threw all of that out the window.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:22 am
by ousdahl
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:19 am
Mjl wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:16 am
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:04 am Taxes play into it too. So does defunding police crime. People just want to escape failed liberal policies in general
Where did they defund the police?
NY cut their budget by about a billion dollars. Then coincidentally crime has skyrocketed since. Lots of people have left and aren't coming back
Have you ever had to call the police for anything?

If it was a crime, did they solve it or catch the perps or do anything beyond take a report?

Leads. Yeah, they got 4 more detectives working on it down at the crime lab. They got us working in shifts!

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:23 am
by Mjl
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:19 am
Mjl wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:16 am
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:04 am Taxes play into it too. So does defunding police crime. People just want to escape failed liberal policies in general
Where did they defund the police?
NY cut their budget by about a billion dollars. Then coincidentally crime has skyrocketed since. Lots of people have left and aren't coming back
How did their crime rate increase compare to cities that did not reduce police funding (btw, the New York case was a cut in funds to all municipal services due to reduced tax revenues due to Covid)

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:24 am
by randylahey
TraditionKU wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:19 ampoor randy
Lol you dont have an intelligent response so you resort to "poor randy"

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:24 am
by ousdahl
Isn’t the whole defund the police thing rooted in allocating that budget toward more constructive social programs?

Invest in communities, rather than criminalizing them

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:27 am
by Mjl
ousdahl wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:24 am Isn’t the whole defund the police thing rooted in allocating that budget toward more constructive social programs?

Invest in communities, rather than criminalizing them
Depends on who you ask, but it doesn't matter, because as long as it's labelled as "defund the police" it won't be politically feasible.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:27 am
by Deleted User 89
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:24 am
TraditionKU wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:19 ampoor randy
Lol you dont have an intelligent response so you resort to "poor randy"
response to what?

your moronic, unsubstantiated claims?

i feel bad for you, and all your inner turmoil.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:28 am
by ousdahl
Mjl wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:27 am
ousdahl wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:24 am Isn’t the whole defund the police thing rooted in allocating that budget toward more constructive social programs?

Invest in communities, rather than criminalizing them
Depends on who you ask, but it doesn't matter, because as long as it's labelled as "defund the police" it won't be politically feasible.
Yeah, that messaging was awful.

But it also has the effect of quickly identifying those who grew up in a community in which they weren’t afraid of the police.

(Which is largely to say, a white community, but not entirely)

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:29 am
by randylahey
Back to covid. If our government genuinely cared about our citizens then the borders would become a top priority. We have a continual wave of illegal immigrants coming in, many of which have covid and are trying to get Healthcare for it. Not to mention the majority of illegal drugs, firearms, and human trafficking all come across our southern border

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:31 am
by ousdahl
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:29 am Back to covid. If our government genuinely cared about our citizens then the borders would become a top priority. We have a continual wave of illegal immigrants coming in, many of which have covid and are trying to get Healthcare for it. Not to mention the majority of illegal drugs, firearms, and human trafficking all come across our southern border
but some, you assume, are good people.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:31 am
by randylahey
But this has always been mainly about power control and politics. Surely you all can see that to some degree?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:39 am
by Deleted User 89
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:29 am Back to covid. If our government genuinely cared about our citizens then the borders would become a top priority. We have a continual wave of illegal immigrants coming in, many of which have covid and are trying to get Healthcare for it. Not to mention the majority of illegal drugs, firearms, and human trafficking all come across our southern border
this is exactly why i feel sorry for you

despite short upticks that right-wingers like yourself like to use as hot-take talking points, illegal immigration continues to be on a downward trend...a 12% decrease from 2010-2019

related, during that same time frame undocumented immigrants from Mexico dropped by an estimated 1.9 million, while undocumented immigrants from everywhere else increased by half a million

re: covid, at least three states have higher levels of infection than incoming migrants

i’ll stop there, unless you want me to keep poking holes in your opinions

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:42 am
by Deleted User 89
TokyoJayhawk wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:42 am
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:31 am But this has always been mainly about power control and politics. Surely you all can see that to some degree?
You would think they would, but they are all not very bright.
hi lobs

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:43 am
by ousdahl
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:31 am But this has always been mainly about power control and politics. Surely you all can see that to some degree?
Yeah, cuz all those illegals are voting now too?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:44 am
by PhDhawk
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:31 am But this has always been mainly about power control and politics. Surely you all can see that to some degree?
It's about a virus.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:50 am
by Overlander
TraditionKU wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:39 am
randylahey wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:29 am Back to covid. If our government genuinely cared about our citizens then the borders would become a top priority. We have a continual wave of illegal immigrants coming in, many of which have covid and are trying to get Healthcare for it. Not to mention the majority of illegal drugs, firearms, and human trafficking all come across our southern border
this is exactly why i feel sorry for you

despite short upticks that right-wingers like yourself like to use as hot-take talking points, illegal immigration continues to be on a downward trend...a 12% decrease from 2010-2019

related, during that same time frame undocumented immigrants from Mexico dropped by an estimated 1.9 million, while undocumented immigrants from everywhere else increased by half a million

re: covid, at least three states have higher levels of infection than incoming migrants

i’ll stop there, unless you want me to keep poking holes in your opinions
As long as GOP dipshit politicians keep running to the border for staged photo ops, the soft headed nitwits will continue to scream that the immigrants are over running us.